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  1. #21
    Player Dart's Avatar
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    completely missed the bus
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  2. #22
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    I'd like to note that the prestelame +2 is now the zerging weapon of choice, outclassing the kraken club.

    At any rate, I think you expect a bit too much, Madawc. Dark Rush, as you describe it, would break the game, regardless of what your opinion may be on the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruentus View Post
    I'd like to note that the prestelame +2 is now the zerging weapon of choice, outclassing the kraken club.
    lol how ? u attack slower and do less hits so u do more ?
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezeak View Post
    lol how ? u attack slower and do less hits so u do more ?
    You hit harder and more often, given the difference in skill, you can use better equipment instead of wasting it on accuracy, and you can eat a red curry bun +1 instead of whatever the popular accuracy food is these days.

    Common sense, Rezeak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruentus View Post
    You hit harder and more often, given the difference in skill, you can use better equipment instead of wasting it on accuracy, and you can eat a red curry bun +1 instead of whatever the popular accuracy food is these days.

    Common sense, Rezeak.
    Math > common sense

    the actual damage of the swings does not offset the bonus attacks per round of a KC, This meaning that you hit faster/harder with a KC than the trialed 2-4 GS just on the fact that you have a much higher max attack per round and better delay, because most of the zerg damage comes from souleater not the physical hits. just incase you dont get this Example:
    On avrg a KC will hit 5 times more(ish) in the same time as the GS meaning 5 more souleater damages the 5 extra hits deals much more than the physical damage the GS deals.

    also the ACC/skill cmnt is a null value because a zerg group has multiple bards for haste/acc/att songs andddddd inb4 zerging is dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madawc View Post
    DRKs will never cast elemental spells the way it is now. I highly doubt DRK will ever get enough MAB/MACC to even match normal melee dps, which must be rediculously much.

    This trait can solve so much. Too many years have gone by without a fix.

    I'd love to whip out a Thunder III after I close a Skill Chain. But 128 MP and 6.75 seconds is just too much. Our MAB/MACC is too weak to even consider it. As I see it, either boost MAB/MACC or boost FastCast/-MPcost. And if I had to guess, giving DRK more MAB/MACC then BLM is out of the question.
    It does have it's applications. some mobs change damage types or go invincible and we have the option to do some damage and gain tp while others do none. It could use a bit of a tweak for faster casting yes but i'm sure SE isn't trying to hear it.
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  7. #27
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    or here's a shocker, mob uses invinc or PD and you

    /shocked

    cast absorb tp, and get 50-80 tp from it. Toss in a drain2 or aspir 2 is mp is a bit low from dread spikes (probably isn't so more than likely using drain/drain2) and by that time you can hit it again!
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  8. #28
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    attacks per round cap at 8, until they implement another weapon with lower delay than kclub and that can cap out your attacks per round. Kclub is king for SE/BW zerg with marches/haste etc.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruentus View Post
    You hit harder and more often, given the difference in skill, you can use better equipment instead of wasting it on accuracy, and you can eat a red curry bun +1 instead of whatever the popular accuracy food is these days.

    Common sense, Rezeak.
    Well if i can acully do DMG to the mob i'll just use my empyrean thx since with Double attack and Aftermath proc means you can do X4 SE DMG and the base DMG is way way way way....way way higher.

    But in a pure SE zerg sitituation u have a BRD or 2 there to cap acc and haste then u eat HP food and gear wise it's Gloom/sables then haste till cap then HP nothing to do with acc and thats a proper SE BW zerg and here KC > *
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    My my, so many people living in the past.
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