Quote Originally Posted by Cream_Soda View Post
Genome was a slightly above average (note that when I say average mnk, I mean the ones you get on average when you do a pick up pt) mnk and a fool, lol.

The guy actually thought agi increased kick attack rates and used to advocate osode over togi even when acc was not capped.

The only way you're going to get guard to proc on any monster that matters (T or higher) is to whore guard+ gear in every slot. PDT beats it in that case, as well as evasion, not to mention losing your DD gear.

Is the mob even match or under? Eva is the obvious choice. Not getting hit > getting hit and its easy to obtain a good evasion rate on weaker mobs. Not to mention they hit for such a low amount of damage, it doesn't matter.

Again, to the tough mobs. Capped guard vs 0 guard, you're going to get the same guard rate, the 5% base, UNLESS you gear guard in a bunch of slots, which is counter productive and not worth it.

Stick w/ that


Edit: Look even in his own entry


Falls into that category I gave earlier of anything T or higher.

Yes, you can get super high guard rates on EM, decent challenge, easy prey, and too weak, but who cares?



“Above Average” huh!? so what is your claim to being any decent at monk at all?

I hardly call anyone with the time and dedication to at least parse and study the mechanics only "above average".

As for the Togi VS Osode argument this goes back years and K. Osode is clearly a better more well rounded offensive and defensive body armor then Shura Togi. Shura Togi clearly has higher dmg per hit, however since this thread is talking about defensive skills for monk, specifically guard, I fail to see where having slightly higher dmg per hit has anything to do with this topic. The stats on the armors themselves prove that. There is no need for parsing to figure that out. The ignorant comment is not worth further mention.

Do you have any parse data that actually backs up your statement that AGI does not increase kick attack rate? He did test it and there "appeared" to be a slight increase. The statistics and small percentages really don't matter just like arguing semantics with a troll is pointless as well.

As far as your focus on Guarding against EM or T or better, once you have capped guard skill and can actually provide some data to back up your claims of only a 5% guard proc rate VS EM and T with capped skill.

You failed to point out the fact that you can "guard" mob TP moves as well which in its self is pretty unique. For the most part you cant parry TP moves and negate them completely.

So again post some useful data to back up your claims or go back on the bandwagon like the rest.