Sublimation: "You are unable to cast Refresh [II] on that character."

[Pikel]

I do agree it would be nice if we couldn't cast on sublimated people, or stacked or what not. My solution was simple thou. Cast first refresh if they had sublimation up they were told I will refresh if they stop using it. Cast second refresh and if sublimation was still up that's it one less person to refresh. Doesn't effect game play that much didn't effect low man limbus or other timed events. If, after communication, they do not wish to trust in our refresh abilities I focus my attention else where.

[Gadanae]

{Yes, please.}

Tired of wasting MP and having to wait to recast Refresh and/or Refresh II. I would really like a system implemented where one could not attain the effects of Refresh, if one were to be under the effect of Sublimation. To be more specific: Don't allow RDMs or anyone with the spell "Refresh" or "Refresh II" to be able to cast it on someone with "Sublimation: Charging" or "Sublimation: Charged" active in the first place. Please!

That is all. Thank you for your time.

Here Here, dam good idea.

[SheKicksHigh]

stop casting it on people with sublimation, theres your fix now stop whining

[Alkalinehoe]

Which makes me wonder why Refresh got shafted in this deal.

Huh, so you're saying Refresh doesn't stack with Ballad/Evoker's/Favor? I thought it did.

[Raksha]

Huh, so you're saying Refresh doesn't stack with Ballad/Evoker's/Favor? I thought it did.

he's saying that refresh got shafted because It doesnt stack with sublimation, whereas Ballad/Evoker's/Favor didn't get shafted in this way.

[Alkalinehoe]

he's saying that refresh got shafted because It doesnt stack with sublimation, whereas Ballad/Evoker's/Favor didn't get shafted in this way.

Oh i see. I don't think it got shafted at all. I mean there are other things RDMs can do besides Refresh... Ballad/Evoker's are from true support jobs and Favor reduces the avatar's DDing capabilities.

[Saefinn]

You can just macro sublimation to inform party members how it's being used:

/p [Sublimation] [Activate]

then

/p [Sublimation][Just Used It]

Suggesting it's a good idea to not refresh a person between those 2 macros unless you're a COR or BRD. Admittedly I've not done that, normally I tell a RDM to not worry about it as I normally keep on top of my MP. But I will take my own suggestion in case I eat my own words.

[Raksha]

Oh i see. I don't think it got shafted at all. I mean there are other things RDMs can do besides Refresh... Ballad/Evoker's are from true support jobs and Favor reduces the avatar's DDing capabilities.

brd/sch can use sublimation + ballad on themselves
cor/sch can use sublimation + evoker's on themselves
smn/sch can use sublimation + favor on themselves
rdm/sch CAN NOT use sublimation + refresh on themselves.

This is what I call getting shafted.

Is it unfair? Meh probably not, but it would be nice to be consistent.

P.S. /sigh SE get some fixed-width fonts up in here.

[Deadvinta]

What I'm concerned about, why do some of you red mages act like you deserve to know when their sublimation is down? Mind your own god damned business about their buffs and MP unless they ask you for Refresh II.

[noodles355]

"Are you using sublimation or want refresh?"
"{Sublimation}? {Refresh}{Do you need it?} {Which?}"

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