Sublimation: "You are unable to cast Refresh [II] on that character."

[Aaralyn]

If you are a good enough rdm that I don't have to wait 5 mins before asking for it and then another 3 mins before getting snappy about it, then more power to you. It has been a very long time since I have met a rdm that was good at keeping refresh on someone.

I do like the raise type idea.

[Khajit]

This is stupid. Refresh overwrote sublimation the last time i got it unless the refresh gave less mp a tic than sublimation. This experience happened before SE altered sublimation so i could be wrong nowadays but even then there's the already mentioned solution of just talking to other people.

[Chocobits]

I like the idea of blocking the cast on someone with sublimation up. Especially for endgame doing split groups, the RDM isn't always in range of the WHM to see them use the ability (although RDM for endgame is sparse in Abyssea anyway).

And communication is always the best tool, but things get frantic, stuff happens, it gets late and people get sleepy or stop paying attention as much. Sublim/Refresh is a duality that shouldn't exist, and I'm really in favor of this suggestion.

[noodles355]

I'm more or less hating on the fact that it wastes a recast of Refresh II. It has a very long recast on its own, and Haste does little to make it less... well, lengthy.

Wat. My refresh2 recast is like 12 seconds... thats hardly long.

Maybe you should try not sucking and learning to gear swap. Then you can macro in haste and fast cast equipment for your buffs.

[Leonlionheart]

Brilliant idea.

It shouldn't be too hard either, since you can't cast raise on live people I don't know why you can't carry that over to can't cast refresh on sublimation people.

[Alhanelem]

Unnecessary. Your SCH should be communicating to you whether s/he is going to use sublimation or not. This is a problem that never has to happen if you just say something.

[Panthera]

or just have Sublimation stack with Refresh I/II in the first place.

With atmas, hyped up Ballads, auto-refresh available on every slot, MP is just not some valuable commodity anymore that's designed to make things take longer by resting.

It wouldn't make a difference anymore if they stacked or not, so just make them stack.

[Alhanelem]

It would be overpowered. They already made sublimation waaaaaay better than it used to be.

[Raksha]

It would be overpowered. They already made sublimation waaaaaay better than it used to be.

More overpowered than minkin atma stacking with sublimation/refresh? surely you jest.

Sublimation already stacks with ballads/diabolos/evoker's roll.

[Carth]

More overpowered than minkin atma stacking with sublimation/refresh? surely you jest.

Sublimation already stacks with ballads/diabolos/evoker's roll.

Which makes me wonder why Refresh got shafted in this deal.