I hate you square enix.

[Yarly]

The irony is overflowing!

It's so funny because it's so true. Pot. Ketttle. Black. etc.

[Yarly]

FTFY, you're not taking any of the shortcuts and using your mouse (lol) to click everything. Of course you're mad about it. I nearly halved your steps. Most of what is left can be gotten through just by hitting enter.

You nearly halved his steps for someone with access to only a SINGLE account. Many, many people have access to multiple accounts, be it friends/family/mule accounts. The amount of people who only have ONE pol ID in their list is a small minority of people.

Also, STEP#10 "click close" is something you see at LEAAST once every month (when they do billling to remind you about the billing period) but it's also used for just general notices/reminders about version updates. You've never seen this? You obviously don't even PLAY ffxi as far as anyone can tell.

Also, he totally cut down the time by a TON. All those "no wait" time frames are usually at least 2-3 seconds each. There's the stupid animation for buttons and dialogs to fade/slide in. It's stupid and the OP is actually downplaying just exactly how tedious logging in from start to finish really is.

[rog]

Also, STEP#10 "click close" is something you see at LEAAST once every month (when they do billling to remind you about the billing period) but it's also used for just general notices/reminders about version updates.

All the cool kids stay logged in for months at a time, and never see that.

[Alkalinehoe]

You nearly halved his steps for someone with access to only a SINGLE account. Many, many people have access to multiple accounts, be it friends/family/mule accounts. The amount of people who only have ONE pol ID in their list is a small minority of people.

Also, STEP#10 "click close" is something you see at LEAAST once every month (when they do billling to remind you about the billing period) but it's also used for just general notices/reminders about version updates. You've never seen this? You obviously don't even PLAY ffxi as far as anyone can tell.

Also, he totally cut down the time by a TON. All those "no wait" time frames are usually at least 2-3 seconds each. There's the stupid animation for buttons and dialogs to fade/slide in. It's stupid and the OP is actually downplaying just exactly how tedious logging in from start to finish really is.

I don't understand why you would share the same accounts on the same platform. Dual-boxing I can understand, even though I don't feel it's all that common as you portray, but if you are playing with family/friends they could just use their own.

I timed myself to see how long it took me to log in. I measured myself from the time I could enter my password on the screen (which is what pops up for me first) to the point where I could see the <welcome to Leviathian> message.

Start: 1:27:25
End: 1:28:36
Total time: 1min 11 seconds.
I don't think that's terrible at all.

Now let's go see how long it takes me to boot up Rift. (I lol'd cause I actually had to wait for a 10 min patch first time I tried). I started from when I could enter password and ended when the world loaded.
Start:1:43:00AM
End: 1:44:33
Total: 1min 33 seconds
I think FFXI was the faster option.

[RAIST]

login process is not a good example for the argument...I never even touch my mouse for FFXI:

I have my system set for auto login. I hit the power button and go fix a drink or something while the desktop loads. Have an icon for calling my ATI profile and launching FFXI--assigned a shortcut key combo to this shortcut. Hit that combo and spam enter a few times, pickup my PS2 controller and use the arrow keys and such to enter my password, navigate all the way to game launch, pick my toon (sometimes I even hit the shoulder buttons to save my macros and such), and then go into the game. Everything I need to do (except for chat and entering numbers on chests) is done with my controller--so I never need the mouse in-game. I also have short-cut key combos on desktop icons to call full shutdown, reboot, and hibernation--but it's more a reflexive action to just hit ALT-F4 to pull up the Windows shutdown menu and hit the right letter (U or R) then <enter> to power things down or reboot.

The bigger issue is with the redundant menus in-game. While some are necessary to prevent us from screwing ourselves, most of these could use some cleaning up (Synergy is one of the more serious offenders). But, as was already mentioned, SE doesn't think it is a good way to spend their already limited resources atm.

[Raez]

Just imagine if it took you one minute and eleven seconds to open the door to your house. You would be pretty mad.

[Alkalinehoe]

Just imagine if it took you one minute and eleven seconds to open the door to your house. You would be pretty mad.

I'm already mad that it takes time for my food to cook.

[Raxiaz]

Now you're just depicting FFXI as being your life, lmao.

[Bubeeky]

The bigger issue is with the redundant menus in-game. While some are necessary to prevent us from screwing ourselves, most of these could use some cleaning up (Synergy is one of the more serious offenders). But, as was already mentioned, SE doesn't think it is a good way to spend their already limited resources atm.

I totally agree...the login method is not really significantly better or worse than any other MMO...the real annoyance is the in game stuff...I repeatedly fail synergy synths because of the stupid menu system in game...

[Hanabira]

And yet, despite all these confirmation windows, people still place the wrong thing for sale at the AH, or for the wrong price, or bid too much or on the wrong item.

this is because we have to spam enter

Just spam enter k?

we would never get anything done if we read every single option and confirmation. granted if youre adding 1 item and do it wrong, you fail. but when youre adding 7, its easy to accidentally go to the wrong item, or forget to push left again resulting in you selling a 1mil item for 100k as seen here with a martial knife

http://www.ffxiah.com/player/Fenrir/Koziki

by auction entry #4 im usually jamming my finger into the enter key like a madman highly annoyed


oh, and the worst are dialogs that pop up after a few second delay, but dont require click from the enter key. so during the delay, your reaction is to hit Enter, then you accidentally confirm NO and get to do it over again!!