I hate you square enix.

[Raez]

Except you're trying to make it sound harder than it really is. You just need to keep hitting enter and the the left arrow key twice to log in (after putting your password in). There are no patterns of numbers you need to memorize, there is no extended typing sequences.

You must be delusional. Let me walk you through the login process.

1. Double click icon -no wait
2. Click play-online id - no wait
3. Click "Login" button" - no wait
4. Click blank PW box - no wait
5. Enter PW without typing - mildly annoying
6. Click OK this is your PW "Circle" - no wait
7. Click Connect - 15~ seconds before you can click ffxi top menu
8. Click FFXI top menu 5~ seconds
9. Click play - no wait
10. Click Close - no wait
11. Click play... AGAIN - 10~ seconds
12. Click accept - 5~ seconds
13. Click Select character - no wait
14. Select your character - no wait
15. Select you wish to enter - 10~ seconds.

<Congratulations!> You have entered the game.
So I was wrong. only fifteen steps instead of seventeen.

Lets compare that to say.... World of Warcraft.

1. Click icon. - no wait
2. Enter password - 4~ seconds
3. hit enter - no wait
(optional) select a different character than you last played - no wait
4. press enter game. - 10~ seconds

Done. What the hell is wrong here? This is just the login. Ever try to put seven auctions up?

[Raksha]

I'm sorry you seem to have trouble dealing with small things?

I know there's a quesion mark at the end of that sentence, but it doesn't read as a question.

I never said I have trouble with it, unless you consider being annoyed to be trouble.

Spamming enter when it isn't necessary is a waste of time. If you think SE should be focusing on other things like PS2 rumbling and unreadable fonts then we have a difference of opinion.

[Alkalinehoe]

You must be delusional. Let me walk you through the login process.

[Removed cause it's unnecessary and you can have it brought up immediatly by checking on th auto login box]
5. Enter PW without typing - mildly annoying [It's necessary]
6. Click OK this is your PW "Circle" - no wait
[IDK about you but a shortcut comes up on mine that takes you to the FFXI page automatically. The cursor defaults to it so you merely just have to press enter]
9. Click play - no wait
[Never seen this step?]
11. Click play... AGAIN - 10~ seconds
12. Click accept - 5~ seconds
13. Click Select character - no wait
14. Select your character - no wait
15. Select you wish to enter - 10~ seconds.

<Congratulations!> You have entered the game.
So I was wrong. only fifteen steps instead of seventeen.

Lets compare that to say.... World of Warcraft.

1. Click icon. - no wait
2. Enter password - 4~ seconds
3. hit enter - no wait
(optional) select a different character than you last played - no wait
4. press enter game. - 10~ seconds

Done. What the hell is wrong here? This is just the login. Ever try to put seven auctions up?

FTFY, you're not taking any of the shortcuts and using your mouse (lol) to click everything. Of course you're mad about it. I nearly halved your steps. Most of what is left can be gotten through just by hitting enter.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Ok? I just spam enter and click the arrows and I can enter just fine (concerning the POL>FFXI process). Only thing i have to press the arrow key for is the accept thing when you exit POL and enter the game.

Click? Your hand touches the mouse? lol

[rog]

Yeah...you basically just spam enter to log in. Honestly the most annoying thing is having to hit enter because you type your password, which is entirely unintuitive, but only takes half a second, so not a big deal (until you forget to hit enter, type your password, then realize you forgot to hit enter, and have to type it again). It could be faster, but it really does not take long.

[Alkalinehoe]

Click? Your hand touches the mouse? lol

Keyboard arrows obviously.

[Leonlionheart]

When comparing to WoW...

Playonline is the only thing preventing FFXI players from moving to free servers. Even if Private Servers were available you'd still need to go through Playonline to access them, and therefore pay SE.

Although there is a way to skip all that, but it was buggy and very much so disproved of by the developers of the private server.

[Raez]

Focus on the playonline thing sure. I'll get to that in a second. Good luck trying to say that confirming things three times is necessary.

Heres an example of a good confimation window: Purchasing conquest items. It displays the item, then if you can't equip it, it tells you and since you cannot return the item it asks you if you wish to purchase. Thank you, I appreciate that.

An example of a bad menu I've provided many times is the auction house. You can read that back in the original post. Also, if you think setting up billing was a breeze you're a masochist. Theres a whole page dedicated to just one drop down menu. What the hell.

Alkalinehoe, you can't just remove steps (you have to click the ffxi icon at some point to bring up POL) because you want to, and hitting enter ADDS some steps, IE button presses. The "Never seen this step" is the phishing spam crap if you can tell me how to get rid of it I'd appreciate it.

Also, if POL was the only issue I would not have spent the time doing all the internet footwork to link accounts and make a SE account to vent on the forum. The UI/Menus are frustrating and so backwards.

[Arlan]

And yet, despite all these confirmation windows, people still place the wrong thing for sale at the AH, or for the wrong price, or bid too much or on the wrong item.

...Ya
Umm...

I do that sometimes lol

[Alkalinehoe]

Focus on the playonline thing sure. I'll get to that in a second. Good luck trying to say that confirming things three times is necessary.

Heres an example of a good confimation window: Purchasing conquest items. It displays the item, then if you can't equip it, it tells you and since you cannot return the item it asks you if you wish to purchase. Thank you, I appreciate that.

An example of a bad menu I've provided many times is the auction house. You can read that back in the original post. Also, if you think setting up billing was a breeze you're a masochist. Theres a whole page dedicated to just one drop down menu. What the hell.

Alkalinehoe, you can't just remove steps (you have to click the ffxi icon at some point to bring up POL) because you want to, and hitting enter ADDS some steps, IE button presses. The "Never seen this step" is the phishing spam crap if you can tell me how to get rid of it I'd appreciate it.

Also, if POL was the only issue I would not have spent the time doing all the internet footwork to link accounts and make a SE account to vent on the forum. The UI/Menus are frustrating and so backwards.

I don't get why you have to double click FFXI and POL icons? Wouldn't you just need to do either/or? It's a moot point since all programs/games/applications require you to start them up. I figured you wouldn't have to resort to adding pointless steps, now I'm surprised you didn't include turning on your PC as one of the requirements. 3 isn't necessary because of the auto-login feature bringing you up to the handle. 4 you can just hit enter and it'll open/close the password input. I forgot about that little notice, I guess it's because I just keep hitting enter and usually am watching TV while I do that. I'm not saying that the process couldn't be cleaned up, but most people here seem to think of it as walking 5 miles compared to logging into other MMOs, which isn't true.