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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagato View Post
    In every RPG ever, you never gain anything except a reason to gain another level in order to take down the next boss. In every RPG ever, the only useful level is the max level you can have at the time.

    Really, if early levels are such a burden, why have them? Why not just start the game at level 99 and spend your time collecting gear from day 1? Why not eliminate leveling entirely?

    Let's just eliminate a leveling system entirely. :/
    Games grow, times change etc.

    When XI was new, the low/mid levels mattered because the majority of content was at those levels. Stuff like BC40/60 were in demand because most people didn't reach the cap and the game wasn't really focused on endgame more it was on giving people a variety of stuff to do at all caps.

    Today's XI is centered on first reaching the cap then enjoying the various content the game has to offer.

    All of the content is at the top so why would SE invest resources into making the EXP climb harder when evidence shows this game is painfully topheavy, not taking in many new players and in need of new content because said topheavy players have had nothing more than Abyssea to do?

    Streamline EXP (offer options besides leeching) and direct all resources towards the new level caps/content

    The argument about starting at 99 is bunk, the game is sufficiently aged such that EXP to the level cap should not be a chore. Making Campaign a lowbie EXP playground in addition to raising EXP rewards in daily BCNMs along with raising exp/kill and FOV offer options for new players (few as they may) to quickly get to cap and enjoy the rest of the high level content the game is so deeply founded in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparthos View Post

    All of the content is at the top so why would SE invest resources into making the EXP climb harder when evidence shows this game is painfully topheavy, not taking in many new players and in need of new content because said topheavy players have had nothing more than Abyssea to do?
    Well, have to say - a playerbase that argues against measures to adapt the marketplace to the new reality so it isn't so harsh on new players doesn't help bring in said new players - nor will it keep them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparthos View Post
    Streamline EXP (offer options besides leeching) and direct all resources towards the new level caps/content

    The argument about starting at 99 is bunk, the game is sufficiently aged such that EXP to the level cap should not be a chore. Making Campaign a lowbie EXP playground in addition to raising EXP rewards in daily BCNMs along with raising exp/kill and FOV offer options for new players (few as they may) to quickly get to cap and enjoy the rest of the high level content the game is so deeply founded in.

    This is a good suggestion. Especially the part about campaign.
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    Where people this mad when Moon and sky became trash for exp when ToAU came out.
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    Last edited by Ravenmore; 04-08-2011 at 01:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenmore View Post
    Where people this mad when Moon and sky became trash for exp when ToAU came out.
    While ToAU did get boring after a while (the EXP was great at the time and that's the only place anyone wanted to go past level 60 or so), it was hardly the same because ToAU was still normal PT's just with faster EXP 60+. It also didn't kill the entire experience of leveling a job.
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    Really engage WS put up shadows rise repeat, some experience. Leveling for the most part been mindless once players found chianning Ts VTs as fast as you can was better then SC MB IT++s. Least with alli leveling you one or 2 people leave it doesnt slow down the party and not finding a brd+rdm meant no party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olor View Post
    6 months? You crazy? I just rerolled a month ago (so no subs leveled having to unlock stuff etc) and I am 61 BST - and I don't even use /RDM (which was my first 30) - I leveled a whole new sub (/DNC).
    I did cor 1-75 in 6 days making east ronfaure [S] parties.

    I also did fast leveing routes ( not a lolcamp) Yuhtunga jungle/ yhoator jungle and up in the qufim tower, and qufin outside.

    you can see amazing exp /hr numbers even in old areas when people use food/acid bolts/armor brake ( I/E no scythe drks, GA only for those levels)

    it still does not compare to abyssea but to say I got slow exp before abyssea ... well as wow say l2p issue.

    I really do not see the need for abyssea to be 30+ for entry all it does is promote ever increasing laziness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Spending Gil = Game balance, next question please tia
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    They're reading and agreeing that these are very good ideas.... to be implemented to rune fencer.

    Just like any good suggestions in the RDM thread get applied to SCH.

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    Syncing to 37 is still not learning anything bout the job, skills will still be gimp and killing the same little pink birds. The other camps is same thing with out little pink birds.
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    my main is a 59 blue and tbh its hell finding a party most the time even when im forming i normally see Abby can i have it leech do you need it? i do believe there should be a cap on abby.
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    Hate to break it to you blus wern't invited to partys before abysea. I soloed blu with my flag up from 55 to 75 long before abyssea was realsed. Think most of it was due to lazy rdm that didnt want to do more then cure cause when they seen a blu asking them if they wanted a pary they hit no thanks rather fast.
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