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  1. #11
    Player Kwate's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikia View Post
    This is getting to be a huge issue, this NM is always camped 24/7 and it is the only NM really stopping people from doing Sobek for Empy and +2 items.

    A few Solutions:

    First ALL ??? and any time spawns need to be lowered to repop a few seconds after said NM's names fades off screen after their death.

    Second for Gukumatz you could either have 3 pop at once OR ??? spawn like the other two KI NMs.

    Third possible solution is make KI drop to entire PT that way fewer kills needed.

    I understand Empy weapons are fairly easy and Very well made items however this game's difficulty should be based around the NM fights or game related content. Having to fight other players over a pop spawn is annoying. I for one have NO LS at all and usually make pickup groups for anything i cant low man with 2 friends. Which puts people like myself at a huge disadvantage when a LS is claiming every single timed spawn NM.
    I am at 10/50 Skins and I know I will finish the hard way but really the accomplishment isnt that the NMs are hard or the fights have a ton of planing they are just out pulling others and Hoping that the people you are with do not mess you over by logging once the have a popset you helped them make.

    I love the game, just hate that most the so called time consuming or difficult things have to do with player competition and nothing to do with NM or game difficulty.

    There are so many possible solutions out there, would love to see something done about this. Please. Thank you.
    I do understand where you're coming from, SE has made a major change with NM's like Guku, Heqet, and others by lowering their spawn time from 60min down to 10min. Some challenge has to be left involving these weapons, and yes i'm at 24/50 on skins for my Almace, so I know all too well your fustration.
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    Player RAIST's Avatar
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    Just out of curiosity, what were you killing to try to get the KI from? Knowing SE, they could have done something funky where you get a better drop rate off the same mob type as the NM....who knows.
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    Major change my foot. The goldbox fix doesn't even count as a bone - it's just more "don't look at the man behind the curtain!" nonsense.

    Guku, Heqet and the others are a major pain on Bismark. I've occasionally seen Heqet up and unclaimed, though that's become a rarity as of late. Can't say the same for Gukumatz though - he's camped nearly 24/7 by all the endgame LS on our server, along with Sobek. And as I said in my thread, Amber farming is completely unrealistic and impractical unless you've got a full alliance that is just mowing down mobs constantly for chests and even then you are left to the remorseless mercy of the rng (random number generator).


    This is not a fix, it's a stall-tactic/parlor trick at best to try and appease the masses. We know you're aware of this issue SE, please get serious about fixing this. All that's happening right now is people getting frustrated and angry at one another over this and it's not helping anyone. This can not seriously be your ideal way to limit the number of Empyreans in circulation as Sobek and the others are not terribly difficult at all. Nor should the real challenge lay in getting claim on them.
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  4. #14
    Raist is right, the target mob may have alot to do with your issues. Some mobs simply don't give a certain color light as an example, and you need the right lights to be getting amber for the chests. Also, do you have the abyssites to "increase fortune with gold chests"? That's supposed to be a factor. There may be others.
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    Player RAIST's Avatar
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    Amber farming is completely unrealistic and impractical unless you've got a full alliance that is just mowing down mobs constantly for chests
    um... Eph. and VNM farming will cap your amber and pearl inside of 30 minutes....I could get amber, pearl, azure built in Vunkerl and have my first piece of feet armor as fast as 40 minutes SOLO on NIN.....
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    I don't think you're understanding me correctly here - Capping lights is far from the issue (though perle can some times take a while). Lights are easy, especially since I have 3/3 Kismet & Destiny.

    The problem is getting the right KIs. You need a farily large group to effectively plow through mobs non-stop otherwise you're better off competing for the NMs and hitting Red !! due to the abysmally low chances of getting enough of the right KIs out of a gold chest.

    I can drop Colibri pretty fast on my 90 WAR (I cleave them because they don't give Ruby Light) but not fast enough - particularly when there are often other groups there farming cruor. The whole process is just a massive timesink & a headache and isn't really a solution at all.

    We would be a lot better off with either forced spawns for these NMs, or lowering the timer to 5 minutes. Never mind the jerks who use 3rd party software. If I run into 1 more claim bot I'm going to smash my monitor.
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    Player RAIST's Avatar
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    eh.. I got 3 V. uragnite KI's (zone boss pop) just skilling up solo in Grauberg last weekend...wasn't even trying to build any lights at all, just mowing down crabs and getting free seals in the process. May have gotten them so easy because they were the mobs where the NM that drops the KI pops (Melo Melo).
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    Player Natenn's Avatar
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    Sometimes Guka is crowded for hours, sometimes its not. Ive seen guka sit up a few minutes b4, id see it chilling but 3/3 so i go pop Sobek/kill go grab guka who sat there for like 5m.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihnako View Post
    Yes they are (IMHO) intentionaly designed to slow down the process - but the way it is right now you'll get a relic from the scratch to the last stage faster than this. And all you have to do for a relic is to spend money (quiet easy) kill 2 dynamis NMs and do the last Kill-Trials.
    I think your dreaming relics are still alot more work then emperians get about 1/4 the currency per night compared to its old system while emperians have only got easier. Farming singles get about 150 a night between four people meaning you could finish maybe to stage 2 from scratch in the amount of time it takes to complete an emperian to lvl 90.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habiki View Post
    I think your dreaming relics are still alot more work then emperians get about 1/4 the currency per night compared to its old system while emperians have only got easier. Farming singles get about 150 a night between four people meaning you could finish maybe to stage 2 from scratch in the amount of time it takes to complete an emperian to lvl 90.
    That's why I said "... And all you have to do for a relic is to spend money..." - You can buy the currency from other players as long as your wallet has some gil inside. (And that's how most relics where done in the past except you had a good ls doing it for you.) So I assume you can faster farm Upper Jeuno for dynamis currency to get your relic to the last stage than to get even 50% of the items for the bottleneck-stage of the empyrean - not to mention what you allready had to do to get the trial weapon to the first stage.
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