HQ king triggers

[Nynja]

and just because you are unable

http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/image...08/warning.jpg

looool amazing counterargument on my part. (I'm referring to spending 16.5 hours per day farming sufficient seals)


and as I said, if anyone is killing the NQ's without TH, theyre retarded...plain and simple. Its going to be hard to get much more of a sample size if majority of the player base, that I've seen so far, are disgusted with the drop rate. Despite your SAMPLE SIZE claims over and over, the average that people are seeing RIGHT NOW is in the 10% range...actually less than 10% for KB and Nid (which are ironically the ones people actually might have some focus on...better abjus and D.Ring). Not many people are going to want to waste their seals on this.

[Insaniac]

0/11 faf 1/9 behe 0/4 ada all with lots of TH

[Gwynplaine]

0/7 Fafnir HQ triggers despite some stellar TH!
At least doing the Wyrm KSNM we got most everyone a beard in the process.

[Sureal]

tell you what, i will leave this thread and never come back, IF, you start a new thread, asking for drop rates obtained by players, and nothing more, update the op to the thread with the numbers when someone adds to it, then, when you get enough numbers overall, and can show the difference between mobs, THEN come back complaining about it

hell, i will even like your posts if you do this

[Catsby]

and as I said, if anyone is killing the NQ's without TH, theyre retarded...plain and simple.

Does treasure hunter actually affect loot inside of a burning circle?

Its going to be hard to get much more of a sample size if majority of the player base, that I've seen so far, are disgusted with the drop rate.

People still do the BCNM for kraken clubs even knowing it has a supposed drop rate of 1%.

Just make sure the people helping you are testing the same way as you(if possible).

[Nynja]

Does treasure hunter actually affect loot inside of a burning circle?

You have no idea whats going on because you seem to think that the BCNM is what drops the HQ king item...unless I misunderstood, but I know I didnt because theres no reason at all for you to mention TH and BC in the same sentence in this context.

You do the KS99, you get the NQ pop item, which drops 100%. You run to where the NQ king spawns, and trade it to a ???, which spawns the NQ king. You think kill the NQ king (this is where all the TH comes into play) which has a chance at dropping a HQ trigger.

[Raksha]

Does treasure hunter actually affect loot inside of a burning circle?

He's talking about the drop rate of NQ land kings, not the KS99 drop rate.

Fighting behemoth/fafnir/whatever the turtle is doesn't take place inside a BC.

hows about you get data BEFORE you present it, thats generally how things work, just saying

So gather the data somewhere else, then come post it here? Why can't we just gather it here?

[wish12oz]

The consensus is that the pops for HQ kings off NQ kings is 5% .
And it's complete BS that the drop rate is this low, the drop rate should be much higher.

Friend of mine went 1/17 off fafnir one day.
Personally I'm 0/12 on faf and 0/8 on behemoth. And with all my kills, all damage comes from THFs, TH is always above 10.

[Catsby]

You do the KS99, you get the NQ pop item, which drops 100%. You run to where the NQ king spawns, and trade it to a ???, which spawns the NQ king. You think kill the NQ king (this is where all the TH comes into play) which has a chance at dropping a HQ trigger.

ok. that makes more sense. It's been years since I've done a KSNM and probably longer since I cared enough to fight fafnir and co outside of nyzul.

The remaining question I have is; how much does an increment of treasure hunter increase drop rate? It might be a large boost and it might not. If somebody is giving you their drop numbers off mixed results then Ooops! Simpson's paradox and the further claim that the drop rate sucks.

[Nynja]

Updated loot counts, separated by NM, all presumed with TH.

Adamantoise:
Me 2/6, Gwynplaine 5/10, Karb 0/3, Insaniac 0/4
7/23

Fafnir:
Me 0/3 BG 0/3, Rak 1/8, Karb 1/3, Wiki 1/32, Insaniac 0/11 Gwyn 0/7 Wish12fraand 1/17 Wish12 0/12
4/96

Behemoth:
Me 0/4, BG 0/3, Rak 1/8, Karb 0/4, Saca 0/8, Wiki 3/26, Insaniac 1/9 Wish12 0/8
5/70


People are going to go on BG, and read about how people have had horrible drop rates on the HQ. People are going to come on these forums, and read about how people have had horrible drop rates on the HQ. Theyre going to go on ffxiah forums and find the same results. They'll go on Zam..and wont find anything. Theyre going to read all this, and then go "do I really want to waste my KS99 knowing I have almost no chance at getting a kings pop?" I can tell you right now, I'm not wasting my last 500 seals.