HQ king triggers

[Sureal]

look, please do not get me wrong, im only going troll mode because im being pushed to it, and honestly i dont care if nynja is an asshole, a saint, or a fucking alien. what i do care about is integrity and due diligence to get the answers you want, and this thread IS starting to go there, and personally id love to see the chart, as i too would like to see the drop rates of everything and whatnot

the problem is, its all this QQing about drop rates, basically over one item, ONE FREAKING ITEM, that honestly while it is a nice ring, the world is not going to end if you dont get it

nynja said earlier that you may see one per year, yeah ONE D RING PER YEAR on a server, not a ls, not a group, but the entire freaking server, and there is all this QQing about ohh it takes too long, really, too long, i dont even....

whether you like the change or not, whether the drop rate is acceptable to you or not, you have to appreciate the changes SE has made to make EVERYTHING more accessable to EVERYONE, im sorry but thats just the way it is, SE is finally listening and has made changes, but since this thread started about 2 days after the update, and only now are we getting the real information, which while it does go inline with what was seen right away, more effort should have been put in before this thread was started, basically it started cause nynja didnt get everything he wanted on his first round of ksnm99's, boo freaking hoo

[Raksha]

There were two other threads about this that never took off. This one did. Mostly because of you and nynja going back and forth. Either way it isnt my problem, the horrid drop rate is.

whether you like the change or not, whether the drop rate is acceptable to you or not, you have to appreciate the changes SE has made to make EVERYTHING more accessable to EVERYONE

You mean people who want to farm for 400 days straight? The only reason to participate in this new system is because of d.ring and ridill (maybe a few abjurations). Everything else could've been gotten from einherjar (abjurations) or KS99 (BB items)

[wish12oz]

nynja said earlier that you may see one per year, yeah ONE D RING PER YEAR on a server, not a ls, not a group, but the entire freaking server, and there is all this QQing about ohh it takes too long, really, too long, i dont even....

Just to correct this, d ring average is 5%, 1 in 20, KB spawned in just under 7 days on average, so 19 weeks between d rings, so about 2.75 d rings per year was the average, not 1. With the new system it's gonna be 1 every 3 years if it's not fixed, maybe you can see the problem here now?

[Bumbeen]

and only now are we getting the real information, which while it does go inline with what was seen right away

funny that

[Nynja]

and only now are we getting the real information, which while it does go inline with what was seen right away

Thats because you and Catsby were too busy going "WAAAAAH SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES"

Which, upon acquisition of greater sample sizes, demonstrated that my initial claim of 15% was actually HIGHER than was proven to be the actual drop rate. Your desires for SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES SAMPLE SIZES only helped my case about the drop rates being FUBAR instead of proving that the initial string was just bad luck and it would balance out to something reasonable.

[Sureal]

so what youre saying is, if i get this right, that a larger sample size got you a better answer


hmmm, imagine that

[Bumbeen]

so what youre saying is, if i get this right, that a larger sample size got you a better answer


hmmm, imagine that

really :/ ....

[Hoshi]

so what youre saying is, if i get this right, that a larger sample size got you a better answer


hmmm, imagine that

And yet he was making the same point when he had the smaller sample size... funny how the overall trend didn't change.

[Arcon]

The sample size was good before this thread was started. It wasn't just his personal opinion, people all over the place had posted their personal results, which, added up, showed that the drop rate was very low, which was the motivation behind this thread in particular.

The fact is, the drop rate is ridiculously low.

thats what i dont understand about this, yes drop rate sucks, so what, you are still getting a chance you didnt have before, and for those that never camped, this is a godsend

And this is where your view on the subject differs from many others. Many people believe that people who really want it will camp it. Especially lately this has been easier than ever before. Now the people who wanted to put all their efforts into it got screwed out of their chance, while everyone else now has a comparably bigger chance (because it was 0 before - by choice).

[Nynja]

so what youre saying is, if i get this right, that a larger sample size got you a better answer


hmmm, imagine that

Youre just flatout trolling now, seriously. You and Catsby were crying about my inadequate sample size saying it doesnt prove anythign and could have been bad luck, and you were throwing every kind of crybaby excuse you could think of trying to dismiss my argument. People spoke up, helped the sample size you were both oh so desperate for, and now instead of going "ok, youre right, the drop rate is worse than projected"...youre still holding on to your same excuses and saying stupid garbage like "haha see I told u u needed a bigger sample size". My initial claims were strong enough, and youre petty desires did absolutely nothing but make you look like a gigantic tool.