HQ king triggers

[Catsby]

Whatever. I ain't even mad.

I only started posting in this thread because the OP was complaints without solid grounds for them. As long as he/she keeps getting more people's support that's great. My only concern is that he/she is trying to narrow in on supposed drop rates without knowing how much each increment in treasure hunter affects it and more importantly whether treasure hunter affects it at all.

[Catsby]

Christ dude, calm down. If anything we are trying to help. This isn't something you can easily do in a week or even a month unless you managed to find a ton of people to help. You just need to make sure everyone who does help knows what you want them to do. Are they testing with or without treasure hunter? if it is with treasure hunter then how much?

edit: validity of tests isn't simply your sample size.

[Sureal]

i never said they usually take 2 weeks to spawn, i said that was the longest that i had seen


and just because you are unable (and im not saying this in a bad way, because you are right, ks's do take a while to farm) does not justify lower sample size


and yes, i will chant sample size until i die, because THAT IS WHAT IT TAKES TO GET A CORRECT ANSWER

[Nynja]

and just because you are unable

http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/image...08/warning.jpg

looool amazing counterargument on my part. (I'm referring to spending 16.5 hours per day farming sufficient seals)


and as I said, if anyone is killing the NQ's without TH, theyre retarded...plain and simple. Its going to be hard to get much more of a sample size if majority of the player base, that I've seen so far, are disgusted with the drop rate. Despite your SAMPLE SIZE claims over and over, the average that people are seeing RIGHT NOW is in the 10% range...actually less than 10% for KB and Nid (which are ironically the ones people actually might have some focus on...better abjus and D.Ring). Not many people are going to want to waste their seals on this.

[Catsby]

and as I said, if anyone is killing the NQ's without TH, theyre retarded...plain and simple.

Does treasure hunter actually affect loot inside of a burning circle?

Its going to be hard to get much more of a sample size if majority of the player base, that I've seen so far, are disgusted with the drop rate.

People still do the BCNM for kraken clubs even knowing it has a supposed drop rate of 1%.

Just make sure the people helping you are testing the same way as you(if possible).

[Nynja]

Does treasure hunter actually affect loot inside of a burning circle?

You have no idea whats going on because you seem to think that the BCNM is what drops the HQ king item...unless I misunderstood, but I know I didnt because theres no reason at all for you to mention TH and BC in the same sentence in this context.

You do the KS99, you get the NQ pop item, which drops 100%. You run to where the NQ king spawns, and trade it to a ???, which spawns the NQ king. You think kill the NQ king (this is where all the TH comes into play) which has a chance at dropping a HQ trigger.

[Catsby]

You do the KS99, you get the NQ pop item, which drops 100%. You run to where the NQ king spawns, and trade it to a ???, which spawns the NQ king. You think kill the NQ king (this is where all the TH comes into play) which has a chance at dropping a HQ trigger.

ok. that makes more sense. It's been years since I've done a KSNM and probably longer since I cared enough to fight fafnir and co outside of nyzul.

The remaining question I have is; how much does an increment of treasure hunter increase drop rate? It might be a large boost and it might not. If somebody is giving you their drop numbers off mixed results then Ooops! Simpson's paradox and the further claim that the drop rate sucks.

[Raksha]

Does treasure hunter actually affect loot inside of a burning circle?

He's talking about the drop rate of NQ land kings, not the KS99 drop rate.

Fighting behemoth/fafnir/whatever the turtle is doesn't take place inside a BC.

hows about you get data BEFORE you present it, thats generally how things work, just saying

So gather the data somewhere else, then come post it here? Why can't we just gather it here?

[Insaniac]

0/11 faf 1/9 behe 0/4 ada all with lots of TH

[Gwynplaine]

0/7 Fafnir HQ triggers despite some stellar TH!
At least doing the Wyrm KSNM we got most everyone a beard in the process.