HQ king triggers

[Raksha]

cause it was so much better the old way?

You mean back when it luck based and not skill based? Oh wait....

I hate to admit it, but yes, it was better the old way.

this is the correct answer.

[Arcon]

The sample size was good before this thread was started. It wasn't just his personal opinion, people all over the place had posted their personal results, which, added up, showed that the drop rate was very low, which was the motivation behind this thread in particular.

The fact is, the drop rate is ridiculously low.

thats what i dont understand about this, yes drop rate sucks, so what, you are still getting a chance you didnt have before, and for those that never camped, this is a godsend

And this is where your view on the subject differs from many others. Many people believe that people who really want it will camp it. Especially lately this has been easier than ever before. Now the people who wanted to put all their efforts into it got screwed out of their chance, while everyone else now has a comparably bigger chance (because it was 0 before - by choice).

[Sureal]

except there is one HUGE difference, now everyone has a chance, instead of the select few who decide to camp forever hoping to get a claim

yeah, your right, old way so much better for the population as a whole


and lets not forget, if you are/were on a server that was heavily botted, you now actually have a chance, on bahamut the first NA defending ring came as a server transfer, so yes, i will take 40,000 seal farming over sitting watching someone else fight KB again and again and again

[Byrth]

40000 seals at 1 seal every 5 minutes. You can't tell if it's going to be a KS or BS (50/50), so it's actually 1 seal every 10 minutes in an optimal case. Realistically, you'd probably get about 1 seal every 14 minutes even killing the weakest possible monsters that drop KS at the maximum possible rate. If you team up, you're still limited by one seal every 5 minutes.

40,000 KS ~= 400 RL (playtime) days of farming

You're right. This is much better than before, where you wouldn't get the D-ring because you couldn't claim the monster. Now you get to waste over a year worth of RL time farming seals to also not have a D-ring. Improvements abound!

PS. If you can't claim, don't camp on good intentions. That's stupid. My friends and I don't bot, but we also didn't camp because we weren't retarded.

[Nynja]

Now you get to waste over a year worth of RL time farming seals to also not have a D-ring. Improvements abound!

inb4: well you'd only average 1 D.Ring per year, and atleast this time you can guarantee claim on KB
pre-reply: except camping KB took at most 3 hours per day, with only having to pay attention for at most 10 minutes, instead of farming for 17 hours a day every day.

[saca]

lol why shoud he want a D ring after all, playing full pink armor is already good.
This forum was made exactly for what we'r talking about.
you just trolling too hard.

[saca]

lack of valid arguments ? childish sentence ? nonsense despit what everyone say ?
yes i think everyone see what kind of guy you are and what you are trying to do.

[Hoshi]

In biology we almost always go with N < 10 as long as the p value is less than .05. If the data is difficult to obtain (mutant frequency of 1:8 or less) and the system yields a low number of offspring (in mice we average 8 embryos a litter), your p value indicates that your data has less than a 5% probability of occurring by chance, and you have multiple types of experiments that validate your overall hypothesis then your N value is acceptable. Arguing that the sample size is invalid because N is limited by the large time required to generate it doesn't make much sense to me. Sure a larger sample size is always better but you should be able to look at trends before you've finished sampling and form a hypothesis about the outcome.