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    Player Nynja's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezeak View Post
    Side Note : Adaberk isn't the best for DRK for WS(Twilight) or TP(AF3+2)
    StoreTP is one of the possible augs on Adaberk, making it possibly better than AF3+2
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    Player Bersty's Avatar
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    Does this mean that the Salvage equipment is going to see a "Magian Trial" like upgrade (for which I would be completely for) or is it going to be subject to another gimmicky attempt at an Augment system that quite undesirable given its difficulty to obtain in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarly View Post
    Funny how you jump to this conclusion, which is obviously not the case here. It makes one wonder how much of the OP you read before you started replying.
    Read all of it. Which you'd know if you'd bothered to read the whole of MY post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    Was suprised with how lackluster the augments were, even the t3 ones were just "ok". None of these really made me want to bother leveling up synergy beyond 40 to get a better HQ rate, sticking with +2 is more or less as good as all the work you could put into this stuff.

    Work on other stuff Square, the vast majority don't care about this one way or the other given how minimal you made the upgrades.
    For jobs like PUP, the whole augmenting thing is pointless to begin with, since none of the god or abjuration gear is equippable by them. (A big example of the dev hatred towards PUPs.. apparently both mage and melee gear across 4 expansions was considered too powerfull.. so PUP got a Hope Staff.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nynja View Post
    StoreTP is one of the possible augs on Adaberk, making it possibly better than AF3+2
    AF3+2 has 3% haste which is TONS AND TONS better than store tp because of Last resorts duration and haste buff

    with magic haste (DRK should always have this even if there forced to sub WHM to get it) 3% haste is part of the 65% haste DRK would get and the difference in DMG for 62%->65% haste is 8.6% DMG not to mention the crit rate and the AF3+2 set bonus lol
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    Main : 99 DRK
    Subs : 99 SMN COR SCH MELEEWHM
    Server : Ragnarök
    Relics : 95 Ragnarok and 95 Apoc
    Ironic that when i was young i never had enough video games but now i have too many and not enough time to play them .

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    Player Taint2's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezeak View Post
    AF3+2 has 3% haste which is TONS AND TONS better than store tp because of Last resorts duration and haste buff

    with magic haste (DRK should always have this even if there forced to sub WHM to get it) 3% haste is part of the 65% haste DRK would get and the difference in DMG for 62%->65% haste is 8.6% DMG not to mention the crit rate and the AF3+2 set bonus lol
    For a relic DRK stp on adaberk is the best 5hit body esp with da2-3. Even for non relic with march and haste you can lose 6% haste in gear making adaberk > af3. And lol at DRK set bonus.

    I have str+10 on armada breeches making them a beastly ukkos piece. (Ac7 att7 as well) heca feet can get 4str and 5weapon skill. I have armada hands with 3% haste, perfect for retal down sets.

    The tatter system is strong with enough luck and patience which is why the low supply of tatters in game is annoying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezeak View Post
    AF3+2 has 3% haste which is TONS AND TONS better than store tp because of Last resorts duration and haste buff
    The haste is only better if you need it, which you do not.
    Adaberk can get STP6 and DA3, this would easily make it better then af3+2 body if you don't need the haste.
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    There are plenty of nice results. It seems like perfect augments would basically restore old HQ Abjuration gear to the place it used to hold. Slycer from BlueGartr has been accumulating a list of the synergy results reported, and I've been slurping it onto BG wiki: http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Tatter_and_Scrap_Synergy

    Check it out! Plenty of attractive stuff there. I'm honestly surprised that tatters aren't worth more than they are. I suspect a lack of Synergists and a hatred of Synergy in general is to blame.
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    Player Rezeak's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    The haste is only better if you need it, which you do not.
    Adaberk can get STP6 and DA3, this would easily make it better then af3+2 body if you don't need the haste.
    Haste is better than DA
    Haste with crit rate is even better
    Haste with crit rate and 3% Double DMG on melee DMG is amazingly better.

    Now ok if that store tp allows a -Hit on a hit build which as far as i can tell is only on Apoc the yes/maybe (i know cata DMG is meh and guillotine i believe you can 5 hit without a Store tp body.)

    but in genral terms for tping Af3+2 is alot better and adaberk is a situational body

    As for not needing the haste i'd rather full af3+2 than adman hauberk on the rare situation that have a BRD but in 95% of cases i don't have excessive haste so forget that

    But with empyrean stuff on DRK it's about riding the 300% aftermath so hit builds don't really effect me either.

    As for Set bonus stuff DRKs main source of DMG is Melee with an empryan geting crits for 2k isn't something to lol at.

    I'll leave it there and mention normal stuff like Store Tp atma or apoc making Da less useful.
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    Last edited by Rezeak; 06-01-2011 at 03:37 AM.
    Main : 99 DRK
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    Relics : 95 Ragnarok and 95 Apoc
    Ironic that when i was young i never had enough video games but now i have too many and not enough time to play them .

  9. #29
    Player Taint2's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezeak View Post
    Haste is better than DA
    Haste with crit rate is even better
    Haste with crit rate and 3% Double DMG on melee DMG is amazingly better.

    Now ok if that store tp allows a -Hit on a hit build which as far as i can tell is only on Apoc the yes/maybe (i know cata DMG is meh and guillotine i believe you can 5 hit without a Store tp body.)

    but in genral terms for tping Af3+2 is alot better and adaberk is a situational body

    As for not needing the haste i'd rather full af3+2 than adman hauberk on the rare situation that have a BRD but in 95% of cases i don't have excessive haste so forget that

    But with empyrean stuff on DRK it's about riding the 300% aftermath so hit builds don't really effect me either.

    As for Set bonus stuff DRKs main source of DMG is Melee with an empryan geting crits for 2k isn't something to lol at.

    I'll leave it there and mention normal stuff like Store Tp atma or apoc making Da less useful.
    Cata > guillotine unless SE is used with guillotine. With the 90buff Cata is DRKs second best WS. (Torcleaver beats it but not by much)(the odd is cala's biggest advantage)

    As we stated if the haste isn't doing you anything for you the DA is your best bet. Crit rate and 1% double damage (not 3) is not going to outshine 3da combined with the base adaberk stats. And BRDs aren't rare, they boost damage and proc grellow....
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    I'm honestly surprised that tatters aren't worth more than they are. I suspect a lack of Synergists and a hatred of Synergy in general is to blame.
    SE's original statement put a lot of people off I think. They said they were going to make armor that was on par with AF3+2, not beat it. So the general reaction for a lot of people was to just ignore it and keep working on AF3.

    Not that I mind being the LS Synergist when people need stuff made though. I'm just wondering how long I'm going to be answering "how do i shot synergy?".
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