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    Player Ravenmore's Avatar
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    PLD was only the best for the weak and gimps. NIN could tank most of the same mobs pld could, those it couldn't rdm/nin was better then both. Hey but they already tried to bring pld back by nerfing NIN/drk RDM/nin.
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    RDM/NIN was never a good tank though except very little situations so nothing important was lost.
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    Its was far better then crapy turtle plds, with more tools to live though most mobs. Also forgot sam can be jsut as good of a tank on old HNM then pld.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring View Post
    Pld had more hate grabbing tools, especially /war.
    Just pointing out that this is where you lost all credibility. PLD/NIN held hate better then PLD/WAR, not getting hit and a 22.5 sec flash was better then provoke/defender/flash.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    RDM/NIN was never a good tank.
    RDM/NIN was the best tank for any HNM.
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    Last edited by wish12oz; 05-24-2011 at 09:25 AM.

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    I wish SE would step up and have the guts to do something unorthodox for once. Every other MMO has blood tanking as the main focus. Constantly avoiding DMG or taking so few DMG, kinda lessens the importance of "Healing" type jobs.
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    They did do something "unorthodox" and this is not other MMOs. Would be one thing if people played healing jobs as much as they play DDs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    Just pointing out that this is where you lost all credibility. PLD/NIN held hate better then PLD/WAR, not getting hit and a 22.5 sec flash was better then provoke/defender/flash.



    RDM/NIN was the best tank for any HNM.
    Nope any melee would have been better. It has to do we casting haste dia and marches. Ffxi 101.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdryik View Post
    Thats why they shouldn't get access to the level cap increase from physical/magical damage but get more evasion tools or Damage tools, by giving them the :Ni version of what they are missing (jubaku, yurin, aisha, etc...), giving them also the abilities to get mark from evading an attack, release the mark to get access to à shadow buff that will absorb the next -ga spell within the next 10s. i dont know, there can be so much idea there.[/COLOR]
    FYI shadows used to absorb -ga, that's like 6 years ago, SE removed it because that time Nin was overpowered and can simply tank everything.

    Not allowing other job which has /nin to use Ni shadows will just make the WHM crazy and eventually every DD/tanks are Nin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sama View Post
    FYI shadows used to absorb -ga, that's like 6 years ago, SE removed it because that time Nin was overpowered and can simply tank everything.
    It was always my hope that SE would un-nerf the Utsusemi update and allow shadows to absorb -agas again but only with Ninja set as a main job. Setting your sub job to ninja would result in utsusemi as it currently is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akujima View Post
    I wish SE would step up and have the guts to do something unorthodox for once. Every other MMO has blood tanking as the main focus. Constantly avoiding DMG or taking so few DMG, kinda lessens the importance of "Healing" type jobs.
    Wouldn't doing something most other MMOs don't do be unorthodox?
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