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    Player Cdryik's Avatar
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    In fact, i asked for Ni, you keep Ichi to avoid AoE if you're a Melee DD, only tank get damage in that so.
    As you can take advantage to Innin as DD also, and Yonin if you decide to keep nin sub.
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    You don't have access to Innin or Yonin as /NIN. However, NIN can sub /MNK and use Counterstance, which I find works better for certain monsters. As NIN/MNK you don't use shadows except to absorb Tier V nukes.
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    Player Cdryik's Avatar
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    Yeah thats also my point, make Ni only to lvl 50, and give Innin / Yonin instead as sub job.
    I didn't tried /mnk as nin yet, i have no trouble keeping shadow up everytime.
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    Player JiltedValkyrie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdryik View Post
    Yeah thats also my point, make Ni only to lvl 50, and give Innin / Yonin instead as sub job.
    I didn't tried /mnk as nin yet, i have no trouble keeping shadow up everytime.
    Nah, you don't use shadows at all when /MNK. You counter the hits to build TP and keep hate better. It actually works very well, especially if you have Iga Hakama +2 with Yonin up (+5% counter) and Gnarled Horn (+10% counter).
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    Player Cdryik's Avatar
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    I should try that so. thanks ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by JiltedValkyrie View Post
    You counter the hits to build TP and keep hate better.
    Counter gives neither TP nor enmity. On the other hand, it does give the enemy TP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdryik View Post
    In fact, i asked for Ni, you keep Ichi to avoid AoE if you're a Melee DD, only tank get damage in that so.
    As you can take advantage to Innin as DD also, and Yonin if you decide to keep nin sub.

    He's right, you would still have Ichi. Ni gives 3 shadows with /nin anyways, the only difference is you make it longer to cast and without the possibility of /nin having 2 ways to put up shadows all the time.
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    You can be a crap MNK and tank without /NIN

    All you need is RR/GH/Apoc, and capped h2h skill. That puts you about 15% from counter cap, which can be made up by relic feet. This makes Spharai virtually useless in abyssea, other than high base damage.

    If you have those things you can sport full pink and still take minimal damage, although holding hate will be hard without good gear/Revenant fists +2/Ascetic's Fury/Vere
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    Still wouldn't help pld tank more, just grab a nin. Infact that would hurt pld more then any one else. The key to getting pld to what you think it should be would be a buff not nerfing every other job. Not like it was every needed on anything to begin with.
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    PLD can sub nin, I think.
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