Why Do You Loose Claim On Abyssea Mobs If Everyone Is Not Dead?

[svengalis]

Is this a technical issue and why do certain spells not claim Notorious Monsters?

[wish12oz]

It works the same as outside abyssea.
Lots of random things can make mobs go unclaimed, like having the only person who had an action on it die, having someone who has it engaged run out of range of being engaged and force disengaging, etc.
In order to claim a monster that has hate on someone not in your party/alliance, you need to first get the monster to attack someone in your party/alliance, then have someone perform an action on it. Any monster who doesn't have hate on anyone will be claimed by anyone who performs any action on it.

[rog]

Lots of random things

There is absolutely nothing random about it.

Monsters are claimed to the individual person, not to a party. The last person who performed an action on the mob has claim on it. If that person does something to lose claim (ie, disengage), then the mob will unclaim, if someone else in the party does not claim it in the time it takes for it to go yellow.

[wish12oz]

There is absolutely nothing random about it.

You are correct, there is nothing random about how unclaiming mobs occurs, but there is lots of random(different) things you can do to make it happen.

[rog]

You are correct, there is nothing random about how unclaiming mobs occurs, but there is lots of random(different) things you can do to make it happen.

No, the only two things that can unclaim a mob:

1) disengaging
2) attacking a different mob while not engaged.

[wish12oz]

No, the only two things that can unclaim a mob:

1) disengaging
2) attacking a different mob while not engaged.

Random is describing the different things you can do to make mobs unclaim, not saying that it happens whenever it wants to without any cause. Stop misunderstanding what I am saying. And there's also more ways then you listed for mobs to unclaim.

[rog]

Random is describing the different things you can do to make mobs unclaim, not saying that it happens whenever it wants to without any cause. Stop misunderstanding what I am saying. And there's also more ways then you listed for mobs to unclaim.

My issue was with "lots of ways". There are not. There are exactly two ways. And i understood what you meant from the start.

Sorry, but no. All ways to unclaim a mob boil down to one of those two. Died? Well that causes you to disengage. Zoned? Disengaged. Charmed? Disengaged. Need i go on?

[svengalis]

No, the only two things that can unclaim a mob:

1) disengaging
2) attacking a different mob while not engaged.

You left out dying. My tank died and the mob went unclaimed. I tried to reclaim it but was beaten by another party close to us.

[rog]

You left out dying. My tank died and the mob went unclaimed. I tried to reclaim it but was beaten by another party close to us.

No i did not. Dying causes you to disengage, which is why you lose claim. Same with zoning, as you would know if you read all of my posts.

[Ravenmore]

BST have been dealing with this for years nothing new.