lol, once I get VE to the point it can hit the broadside of a barn, probably. I'm working on auto skill (and my h2h/guard /sigh) while pounding out an empy weap since I have no desire for Burts now. My luck being waht it is, I'll probably finish it just when the Mog scam drawing is... and win a Kenkonken. Won a temp torque last round, then got my ferine and aoidios necklaces within 2 RL days.