Rancor Collar

[Korpg]

If i remember right..... WAR, DRG, THF, NIN... I'm forgetting some. Either way Damage Taken +10% Is not as wtf-im-going-to-die as it sounds, Especially in Abyssea.

In voidwatch or something, IDK, Good WHMs can still keep up so long as its not something that runs a real risk of One-shotting you. MNK/PUP get better use of Faith Torque so long as it bumps them up a DMG level i think.

Pretty good WS neck for Multi-hit Crit Ws's too, Like Evisceration, Stringing Pummel, etc.

I don't know about WAR. I rather keep my Ravager's Gorget. And I have a Snow/Breeze Gorget for WS, so its not like I need one for that either.

As for the +10% Damage inside Abyssea, yeah, I agree with you, outside Abyssea is another factor though. That's like asking a DRK to full time Plastron set. I get hate too quickly inside and outside of Abyssea to shadow tank or Seigan/Third Eye tank, and adding more damage to myself while increasing my crit rate by a minimal amount (I already have 50%+ crit rate inside abyssea, adding +5% isn't that much tbh) isn't worth it to me.

[Karbuncle]

I don't know about WAR. I rather keep my Ravager's Gorget. And I have a Snow/Breeze Gorget for WS, so its not like I need one for that either.

Crit +5% might prove more useful for Consistency, and as a better WS neck at least outside Abyssea where you will need more Crit+ Gear than you would need inside.

for TP, eeeehhhh.... STR+something Dbl.Atk+2 vs 5Crit rate... I don't know enough to make a good estimate on that.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Rancor is better than Empyrean Gorget (for TP, ignoring needing STP option) and Sea Gorgets for War, assuming RR or Ukko's iirc and you're not inside abyssea with BR up (assuming Ukko's).

[Byrth]

I use it for weaponskills and in my "Marches and Haste" TP set on Dancer.

[Cream_Soda]

Given for exp mobs(most jobs, if not, all), w/ a 70+% counter rate, only a handful of mobs I wouldn't use this against

[wish12oz]

I use Rancor Collar in a few TP sets for NIN and WAR, and I use it for Ukkos all the time, and Blade Hi outside abyssea.

[Kimble]

Given for exp mobs(most jobs, if not, all), w/ a 70+% counter rate, only a handful of mobs I wouldn't use this against

Even over faith torque?

[Korpg]

Considering that I have 0 tonberry hate, I think it is safe to say that for me, Ravager's Gorget > Rancor Collar.

I don't plan on maxing out my hate for this either, because I'm sure that something a lot better will come out between 90-99 gear.

Also, I have 4/5 WAR +2 for my TP set and the gorget will help a lot in trying to proc the set.

[Aurara]

Also, I have 4/5 WAR +2 for my TP set and the gorget will help a lot in trying to proc the set.

Gorget doesn't impact set bonus, as far as i know, lol.

[Kimble]

Gorget doesn't impact set bonus, as far as i know, lol.

Im sure he means, the more he double attacks, the more chance he has of the set bonus to proc.