Learning Blue Magic

[Kwate]

God damn you can tell who the Post-Battery Charge BLU's are and the Mirage Jubbah BLU's are, spoiled brats, back in my day you had 1 tick of refresh and that was god damn bread and butter, and now everyone wants the abyssea path. See back in my day BLU's didn't get parties, unless they begged some people, offered gil, had friends in the party, ls party, or they were simply that desperate. When I leveled BLU, I earned all of my BLU specific merits doing campaign every day, in and out. That was how BLU earned merits or hell got from 70-75 (unless you level synced, but even that didn't come out until much later), either that or solo'n. Back when if you wanted MP refresh, you had to get a Vermillion's Cloak, and ACTUALLY be smart with your SC's and MB's and SC Gravitation and magic burst that with MP drainkiss to get MP back so you didn't have to get on your knees in a party. When there weren't books to give you refresh and regen, god you guys got it so easy, and yet you feel BLU should be easier!? Omg! how about they just give you an Almace, and a spell that one shots the mob?

"Why can't I just buy my job and get it over with?" Seriously, I know some of you picked up this job because your LS forced you to do it for grellow procs, but seriously if thats the case. Get off this job class in the forums because when it says "Blue Mage" your not one of them. Earning the spells is a great thing, who didn't love showing off Body Slam back in the day when it was hard as balls to get, the spell was shit, but hell it showed you were a bad ass. Same goes for Disseverment, when you had that spell, you were a "BLU". The only thing I will say is that you got some guts comin in and posting this in a forum that has some real BLU's in, because honestly its this question of "How do I make BLU spell farming easier?" and "What Spells do I not need?" that are going to get your ass roasted more then an albino in Mexico.

You have to have your Blue Magic Skill high enough, to get the spell that is the only determinant of it, it doesn't do better in spell learning the higher it is, but you want it capped for better casting. Popping your 2 hour to learn spells was a myth and was debunked around the time when people thought CHR affected the ability to learn spells. Its not true and is just coincidence. The reason why your 2 hour doesn't affect it, is because it doesn't increase your blue magic skill in anyway, all it does is increase the TP modifier to 350% and "enhances the accuracy" which to this day I still say thats some BS because its not even noticable. One could argue it achieved something if it actually increased the blue magic skill in anyway, but it does not.

Again reference to back in the day when people thought that saving your TP to 300% and casting increased the damage of spells, or the ability to learn spells. Or When people equiped CHR gear to "enhance" learnability. Or people that used to fight easy preys in order to get spells because they though you had to get exp from the mob in order to learn the spell. These are all myths that were proven false no more then a few months after the job was released. The only thing that will help you learn your spells is A) Having your blue magic skill high enough for the required spell to be learnable, and B) Having your Magus Bazubands. Everything else is irrelevent and simply myths that have either been already proven false, or have not had sufficient data to be proven as a truth (I say it still doesn't hurt to cap it out, but I wouldn't tell a BLU its necissary in order to learn a spell easier, its just luck boys and girls, the sooner you accept that. The more fun this job will be).

I know Scuro, its Bullshit how these people call themselves BLU, come on our forum and whine. Are you kidding me? Feel free to make a job change. Clearly BLU is not for everyone, stop your whining and man up. So what it takes you 20 times to see the spell, you'll get it, just keep at it, SE needs to change NOTHING about the way blue magic is learned.

[Kwate]

I started playing Blue one the first day it was released and you couldn't actually learn spells from enemys that did not yield exp, it wasn't just a myth it was changed with an update to blue mage.

At that point in time you couldn't really skip a spell like bludgeon unless you wanted to wait till later when you could kill the higher lvl cardians, this was the case for many spells, and the reason most blues soloed the majority of their lvls to learn their spells early and not have to wait till their usefulness was nonexistent, along with only getting invites to party on lesser colibris due to mp drainkiss making it so we didn't have to rest, and beyond those I don't remember getting any invites it was a real struggle to even lvl the job. And the only way to merit it was to do it on another job like Sam, Rdm, Brd, or War besides soloing imps in caedavra mire. Campaign didn't exist, no lvl sync, no fields/grounds of valor, no abyssea Blues now got it made. Not to mention all the ways to get refresh now, most Blues couldn't even set Auto-Refresh till after CoP was made into a joke and the mirage jubbah was rare to get in dynamis and wasn't added till much later making the vermy a staple piece.

If abyssea was out then and people leached their job to 75 like most do now, there would have been no way to get certain spells.

You can read about it in the April 18th 2006 update notes from when Blue Mage was released if you don't believe it.

I've always had better luck learning spells once I aquired the Magus Bazubands +1 went 1/1 on every spell except dream flower which I went 1/2 on since the lvl cap increases, could be that I've just been lucky. Generally when trying to learn spells I've always waited for the mob to use the spell I'm after then zerged it out within 3 seconds of its use.

I remember going after bad breath and it being horrible to get and then once i got it was really dissapointed barely had enough mp to cast it and do anything afterwards. Wasn't worth the 6 hrs in yhoatar jungle it took to get killing both marlboros everytime they were up.

I agree with scuro on everything being way easier for Blues now and theres no reason to really complain, If you didn't want to put in the effort to learn the spells then maybe your on the wrong job.

I agree, getting a party for BLU was horrible, almost damn near impossible. Merit party, you can forget that altogether. Sea spells was a major accomplishment in itself and you had to actually know how to play your job. BLU has alot to bring to the table if you take the time and effort.

[Grimkitty]

I find it fun to try and learn spells on BLU; agreed that it can be irritating if you don't get it 1/1 with high skill, but I find it worthwhile when I get it, then I can go move onto the next one.

[Lukielucas]

I agree, getting a party for BLU was horrible, almost damn near impossible. Merit party, you can forget that altogether. Sea spells was a major accomplishment in itself and you had to actually know how to play your job. BLU has alot to bring to the table if you take the time and effort.

Oh I totally agree, Pre-abyssea my 3 main jobs were DRG, BLU and WHM and BLU was one of the hardest job to get a party but I actually preferred soloing when i was on BLU, yeah it took a lot longer cos we didn't have what we have now... with double exp and abyssea...

I tell you what really p*sses me off about BLU's now a day is that they are skipping the AF1 because they think it's useless and go straight to AF3... The magus juddah is still a fantastic piece to own and totally worth it just for the +15 Blue magic skill alone!! then whinge about how hard it is to learn a spell... I had to kill 217 leeches just to learn MP Drainkiss and out of those 217 leeches 57 of them did the spell so i'm 1/57 on that spell... while i lost my rag and almost hated the job... i now really appericate this job cos it's the one job you REALLY have to work for!

[Dreamin]

I'm all for having to farm the spells, but seriously, 1/37 for cocoon was bad back when I was a level 10 BLU, but 1/80+ on Heat Breath (AF Body+Hands) and with BLU skills way over the level 62/65 blu skill levels is worst. And right now, I'm at 0/40+ on Diamondhide with 308 BLU skills before AF body (not including the 10+ Diamondhide I've seen in Besieged already). This is just getting retarded.

Seriously, maybe add a 2% chance of increasing your odds of learning a spell everytime you see the spell and you have met the current condition of the leaning of that spell please. [Worst case with this would then be 1/50 of learning a spell instead of these pure random luck thing]

[Kwate]

Crappy luck I admit, just keep at it, you'll appreciate it in the grand scheme of things.

[Ravenmore]

I'm all for having to farm the spells, but seriously, 1/37 for cocoon was bad back when I was a level 10 BLU, but 1/80+ on Heat Breath (AF Body+Hands) and with BLU skills way over the level 62/65 blu skill levels is worst. And right now, I'm at 0/40+ on Diamondhide with 308 BLU skills before AF body (not including the 10+ Diamondhide I've seen in Besieged already). This is just getting retarded.

Seriously, maybe add a 2% chance of increasing your odds of learning a spell everytime you see the spell and you have met the current condition of the leaning of that spell please. [Worst case with this would then be 1/50 of learning a spell instead of these pure random luck thing]

I can one up that while trying for cacoon I seen it many times forgot how manyrage gave up went and did something else. 2days later got the hair up my butt again to try to learn it going thought to set spells what do I see starring at me cacoon. Have no idea when I had learned it or if it even showed in the log or if I missed it. I learn a lesson that day one watch the log more and if I go too long with out learning a spell, check spell list.

[Mirabelle]

I must have been lucky as healing breeze was the only spell it took me more than a couple hours to learn. Granted I've made sure to keep my BLU magic skill capped and pretty much hunted spells only when I was over cap. I've been completing my list of crappy but difficult to obtain spells and haven't had it take more than a few 10 mobs to get any of them. 1/1 Body slam soloing dahaks was a nice treat.

[Ravenmore]

I must have been lucky as healing breeze was the only spell it took me more than a couple hours to learn. Granted I've made sure to keep my BLU magic skill capped and pretty much hunted spells only when I was over cap. I've been completing my list of crappy but difficult to obtain spells and haven't had it take more than a few 10 mobs to get any of them. 1/1 Body slam soloing dahaks was a nice treat.

The "luck" factor is the biggest thing in learning spells once you have the blu skill to learn. I have gotten a fair amount of spells doing other things. I got body slam off the ZNM dragon when some one messed up and used gekko on it back when that was the worth doing. That was a annouying fight till silince wore off.

[Inafking]

If you think it sucks now, wait for the HNM spells.

(By "it" I mean the difficulty of learning and the complaints. I find the complaints more annoying for now, but I have a feeling that is about to change.)