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    Player Zagen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiichi View Post
    If it's that bad, here's a bit of advise, 2hour once you see the spell and then down the mob 2 seconds later. This has worked for me 14/14 times. I know a lot of ppl say it dosen't work, maybe I'm just lucky when it comes to getting the spells, but this meathed has worked for me. I would also like to point out that my BLU is still under 50 so I havent a clue about the higher level spells. Also I haven't a clue if SE anounced that it has nothing to do with spell gain or if actuall testing has been done, so before anyone says it dosen't work (Because I've been told before) please point me to evadense.

    P.S. Hope it helps >_>
    Dunno if this "works" but asking for evidence when your own example is too small to be used as proof is bad logic. When testing a minimum sample size would be 100 (gives you an idea), a good sample size worth looking at would be 1000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciecle View Post
    Honestly I've not had too many spells that take hours upon hours to learn. The only spell I've ever had a long time to try and learn was Regeneration... mainly my fault due to the forgetting of my hands =/.

    The 'key' to learning Blue magic spells are 1: Magus Jubbah, 2: Mirage Keffiyeh, 3: Mavi Tayt +2(+1 is good too), 4: Mavi Scarf, 5: Mavi Tathlum, 6: CAPPED MAGIC, 7: Magus Bazubands and 8(Optional): Blue magic Merits

    if it wasn't obvious the bolded part is most important etc.

    The above gear with level 90 capped magic puts you at 422 magic skill.
    Even if you dont have All of the gear above, you should still have your af body/hands...
    Failed to Bold AF hands, which is the most important and should be number 1. What's been confirmed is magic skill determines minimum level of learning spells. You can say capping skill helps learning spells but from my experience it's just anecdotal evidence.
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    Been career BLU for the last 3 years, I can honestly say I can count on 1 hand how many times I used my 2hr. Either way if people are complaining about learning spells they need to consider a job change, they are enough gimp BLU's that make the career BLU's look bad.

    I think I'm noticing a strong trend with this "official forum" vs. FFXIAH and blue gartyr, it seems people are whining more hoping it makes a major difference. Be nice to have some more of the gamers on this forum.

    I'm all for helping people and n00bs alike, but complaining and not taking the initiative to learn your job or/and missions for that matter is really annoying.
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    Player Zagen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwate View Post
    I think I'm noticing a strong trend with this "official forum" vs. FFXIAH and blue gartyr, it seems people are whining more hoping it makes a major difference. Be nice to have some more of the gamers on these forums.
    On those forums people who refuse to listen to advise based on known rules, mechanics, efficient game-play methods, etc. and argue with little more than "because I said so" are the minority, here on the other hand they seem to be the ones who are the majority. This tends to keep people who are more knowledgeable away from these forums, why try to inform those who refuse to be informed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    Failed to Bold AF hands, which is the most important and should be number 1. What's been confirmed is magic skill determines minimum level of learning spells. You can say capping skill helps learning spells but from my experience it's just anecdotal evidence.
    eh, It wasnt in any specific order. And magic skill does determine a minimum level, but it also helps with learning. AF hands are a must, which is why i said at the last part 'You should still have af body/hands' because you SHOULD have them already if you're 50+ anyways so in a sense yes they're important, but they are implied as such. etc.
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    As I said I've seen nothing other than anecdotal evidence that skill level helps with learning outside of minimum requirements, just because it 'feels' like it helps does not necessairly mean it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    As I said I've seen nothing other than anecdotal evidence that skill level helps with learning outside of minimum requirements, just because it 'feels' like it helps does not necessairly mean it does.

    Honestly, it's near impossible to say that it does or it doesn't, because learning a spell might be 50% luck or might be 100% No one has agreed or disagreed with the 'Capped Magic helps' or the 'It doesn't do jack squat' Most people already have the skill capped due to just casting the magic anyways... It's mostly a personal preference.
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    While BLU Mag Skill does really work, you really have to think of it as BLU magic farming as proccing a TH. Its math mixed with a lot of luck. Regardless of the hours it takes for a spell to be learned, I've always had fun farming them(after 50 of course). It's more fun learning with a friend because of the 'oh sh!+" moments. For example, my PLD buddy and I were farming Blazing Bound in La'theine and we were moving through the group casually until we were in the middle of their spawn camp. Sure enough, they repopped and linked. Suddenly 5+ mobs each casting Firaga III and them spamming Blazing Bound at least 2 times a mob. Many Head Butts, Embraces, and Ramparts later, we were able to get out of the camp to a free zone after killing roughly 10 of them at once. Did I learn the spell after 20 or so Blazing Bounds?
    Nope.
    Did I have a hella good time?
    Hell yea and my pally friend was laughing all the way.
    You can make spell farming fun or not, its up to you but just know that it's 90% luck 10% gear. Kinda like getting the rare drops with Treasure Hunter.
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    @Zagen
    Your statment is true and I do agree with it. I don't even thik you could consider 14 anything but dumb luck. I just don't like ppl to say no-no-no when they don't even know for themselves. I ment to simply show what had worked for me, but yes I do beleave I became defensice too early too soon.

    As for everyone else. My BLU is actually a static with the rest of my family (-mom) and learning the spells as a group has to be one of my fravret aspects of this game. We tend to see who can cap BLU Magic first after level gain, and when new spell become avalabul, we brag when we can use the spell everyone else is tring to learn. Just rember that it's a game. weve been handed faster exp sp that true gamers can learn the histry and storys behing the world we play to excape reality. If your given everything, why play the game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiichi View Post
    @Zagen
    Your statment is true and I do agree with it. I don't even thik you could consider 14 anything but dumb luck. I just don't like ppl to say no-no-no when they don't even know for themselves. I ment to simply show what had worked for me, but yes I do beleave I became defensice too early too soon.

    As for everyone else. My BLU is actually a static with the rest of my family (-mom) and learning the spells as a group has to be one of my fravret aspects of this game. We tend to see who can cap BLU Magic first after level gain, and when new spell become avalabul, we brag when we can use the spell everyone else is tring to learn. Just rember that it's a game. weve been handed faster exp sp that true gamers can learn the histry and storys behing the world we play to excape reality. If your given everything, why play the game?
    Good job, good to see you doing it the right way and enjoying BLU for what it is and not whining about spell farming. I found it different and liked how farming them takes you to all corners of vana'diel.
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