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    Player Ciecle's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    Failed to Bold AF hands, which is the most important and should be number 1. What's been confirmed is magic skill determines minimum level of learning spells. You can say capping skill helps learning spells but from my experience it's just anecdotal evidence.
    eh, It wasnt in any specific order. And magic skill does determine a minimum level, but it also helps with learning. AF hands are a must, which is why i said at the last part 'You should still have af body/hands' because you SHOULD have them already if you're 50+ anyways so in a sense yes they're important, but they are implied as such. etc.
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    Player Huevriel's Avatar
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    Learning the spells is half the fun of leveling BLU, even if it does take forever and a day.
    Also, please use spell check.
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    Just a level 75 COR still trying to cap his skills before venturing into level 76. All that's left is parrying.
    SE please give me a Parry Roll or Parry Bonus Job Trait.
    SE Thank you for the COR update that changes Gallant's Roll. You have indirectly answered my prayers for assistance in Parrying Skillups!! THANK YOU SE. -_-

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    Player Kaiichi's Avatar
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    If it's that bad, here's a bit of advise, 2hour once you see the spell and then down the mob 2 seconds later. This has worked for me 14/14 times. I know a lot of ppl say it dosen't work, maybe I'm just lucky when it comes to getting the spells, but this meathed has worked for me. I would also like to point out that my BLU is still under 50 so I havent a clue about the higher level spells. Also I haven't a clue if SE anounced that it has nothing to do with spell gain or if actuall testing has been done, so before anyone says it dosen't work (Because I've been told before) please point me to evadense.

    P.S. Hope it helps >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiichi View Post
    If it's that bad, here's a bit of advise, 2hour once you see the spell and then down the mob 2 seconds later. This has worked for me 14/14 times. I know a lot of ppl say it dosen't work, maybe I'm just lucky when it comes to getting the spells, but this meathed has worked for me. I would also like to point out that my BLU is still under 50 so I havent a clue about the higher level spells. Also I haven't a clue if SE anounced that it has nothing to do with spell gain or if actuall testing has been done, so before anyone says it dosen't work (Because I've been told before) please point me to evadense.

    P.S. Hope it helps >_>
    Dunno if this "works" but asking for evidence when your own example is too small to be used as proof is bad logic. When testing a minimum sample size would be 100 (gives you an idea), a good sample size worth looking at would be 1000.
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    Been career BLU for the last 3 years, I can honestly say I can count on 1 hand how many times I used my 2hr. Either way if people are complaining about learning spells they need to consider a job change, they are enough gimp BLU's that make the career BLU's look bad.

    I think I'm noticing a strong trend with this "official forum" vs. FFXIAH and blue gartyr, it seems people are whining more hoping it makes a major difference. Be nice to have some more of the gamers on this forum.

    I'm all for helping people and n00bs alike, but complaining and not taking the initiative to learn your job or/and missions for that matter is really annoying.
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    Player Zagen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwate View Post
    I think I'm noticing a strong trend with this "official forum" vs. FFXIAH and blue gartyr, it seems people are whining more hoping it makes a major difference. Be nice to have some more of the gamers on these forums.
    On those forums people who refuse to listen to advise based on known rules, mechanics, efficient game-play methods, etc. and argue with little more than "because I said so" are the minority, here on the other hand they seem to be the ones who are the majority. This tends to keep people who are more knowledgeable away from these forums, why try to inform those who refuse to be informed
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    Player Asanarama's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiichi View Post
    2hour once you see the spell and then down the mob 2 seconds later.
    Funny. My idea is just the opposite. I had a much much harder time learning Self-Destruct than any other spell. I thought it might be because the opponent died right when using the spell, so I always make sure and wait a few seconds before the kill.

    Keep in mind that opponents with over 25% of their HP might not do a tp move until they have 300 tp, but under 25% hp they use their tp as soon as it reaches 100. As long as there are plenty of targets available, ideally you want to quickly take your target down to 25% hp and then use extremely weak weapons or spells to feed it tp. I prefer onion swords, or if the opponent is particularly weak, level 1 wands. Your opponent also gets tp from hitting you, so /war with defender and cocoon to reduce damage can be better than /nin for utsusemi. Defender also helps you hit less hard so you don't kill it before you see what you want to learn.
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    As I said I've seen nothing other than anecdotal evidence that skill level helps with learning outside of minimum requirements, just because it 'feels' like it helps does not necessairly mean it does.
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    Player Ciecle's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    As I said I've seen nothing other than anecdotal evidence that skill level helps with learning outside of minimum requirements, just because it 'feels' like it helps does not necessairly mean it does.

    Honestly, it's near impossible to say that it does or it doesn't, because learning a spell might be 50% luck or might be 100% No one has agreed or disagreed with the 'Capped Magic helps' or the 'It doesn't do jack squat' Most people already have the skill capped due to just casting the magic anyways... It's mostly a personal preference.
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    Player Tatts's Avatar
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    While BLU Mag Skill does really work, you really have to think of it as BLU magic farming as proccing a TH. Its math mixed with a lot of luck. Regardless of the hours it takes for a spell to be learned, I've always had fun farming them(after 50 of course). It's more fun learning with a friend because of the 'oh sh!+" moments. For example, my PLD buddy and I were farming Blazing Bound in La'theine and we were moving through the group casually until we were in the middle of their spawn camp. Sure enough, they repopped and linked. Suddenly 5+ mobs each casting Firaga III and them spamming Blazing Bound at least 2 times a mob. Many Head Butts, Embraces, and Ramparts later, we were able to get out of the camp to a free zone after killing roughly 10 of them at once. Did I learn the spell after 20 or so Blazing Bounds?
    Nope.
    Did I have a hella good time?
    Hell yea and my pally friend was laughing all the way.
    You can make spell farming fun or not, its up to you but just know that it's 90% luck 10% gear. Kinda like getting the rare drops with Treasure Hunter.
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