Unconditional 12% Movement Speed

[blowfin]

You don't have to. It can becondenced down to; Complaining. Why can I run fast on everything with no effort? Complaining. Why do I have to camp end game bosses for it? Complaining.

No, it was a question. It really boils down to this: Is there a need for gaiters, and to a lesser extent wlegs, to still be cock blocked like they are when basically every other job in the game has gained easier access to movement speed.

A little bit of balance in the other direction would be most welcome as the tables have turned quite considerably.

Honestly I dont know why people would oppose this. Gaiters are a ridiculous testament to the old ways, and they stick out like a sore thumb as an example of the problems we had before Abyss. Should we just keep it like that as a reminder of the ways things were? Some gaudy shrine to HNM shells and MPK? A testament to people who Bazaar the boots after their shell camped them twice a week?

sorry, I've just never seen the need for every job to have every other job's abilities.

Well thats kind of the problem in a nutshell. Thats exactly what has happened over the last few years to the jobs that had access to movement speed in the form of wlegs, gaiters and trotters. EVERYONE else got access to movement speed, and generally with easier to obtain items. While the difficulty of obtaining Gaiters etc. remained at the same level.

So if we were to go by your rationale, any job that was gifted with movement speed in the last 4 years shouldnt have it.

The list includes:
-WAR
-SAM
-BST
-MNK
-PUP
-DNC

and Im sure theres more that I havent thought of.

Hell even something as simple as making gaiters Rare/Ex and a 100% drop would go a long way, its not like you can spam Tiamat for drops and it brings it more in line with what seems reasonable in the current game.

[Urat]

Well most of end game is abyssea anyways so there are several atmas that give you movement speed+ so yeah, problem solved. BTW, both of the good move speed+ atmas are godsends for farming seals via quests, makes it so much faster.

[Raksha]

Well most of end game is abyssea anyways so there are several atmas that give you movement speed+ so yeah, problem solved. BTW, both of the good move speed+ atmas are godsends for farming seals via quests, makes it so much faster.

p1: hey which DD atma's you using?

p2: RR/apoc/ambition

p1: ambition? wtf?

p2: it's cool, urat said it was ok.

[HFX7686]

You know you can get +8% movement pants by just doing the easy-as-all-get-out "A Shantotto Ascension" add-on. You have to select one of the three pants, but each one covers like 7 jobs. Since you seemed to focus on mage jobs, you can even get Cure Potency +5% to boot!

I'd get 8% movement speed and the damage down stat on the Shantotto pants, if one is using them for kiting. Seems kind of pointless to get anything else.

[Zarchery]

Exactly what is the problem here? I move around fine without +12% movement speed. When I get it by putting on one of the aketons that work in the 3 cities, I barely notice a difference. And as mentioned, the Sprinter's Shoes are available for a couple hundred allied notes. What's the problem?

[Raksha]

Exactly what is the problem here? I move around fine without +12% movement speed. When I get it by putting on one of the aketons that work in the 3 cities, I barely notice a difference. And as mentioned, the Sprinter's Shoes are available for a couple hundred allied notes. What's the problem?

Probably that we want to be able to move fast somewhere other than our home nation, and without it wearing off when we take offensive action on a mob? (or when the mob takes offensive action on us)

Just a guess.

You know that only one of your 3 aketons are actually working, and that's the one for your home nation, right?

I'd get 8% movement speed and the damage down stat on the Shantotto pants, if one is using them for kiting. Seems kind of pointless to get anything else.

I got -pdt and cure potency on mine (SCH can't cap cure potency easily). But I have gaiters so dont need the movement speed

[Atomic_Skull]

So if they increased everyone's speed by 12% would the +12% movement items be useless now? Or would they add another 12% on top of that?

If it's the former that's just dumb and if it's the latter then +12% will be the new "normal speed" and you'll soon start complaining again.

[Raksha]

So if they increased everyone's speed by 12% would the +12% movement items be useless now? Or would they add another 12% on top of that?

If it's the former that's just dumb and if it's the latter then +12% will be the new "normal speed" and you'll soon start complaining again.

Or they could just make all monsters run slower.

And if it's dumb for all jobs to run faster, then why is it already possible? I'll drop my gaiters when you drop yours.

[Alhanelem]

make monster's speed 12% faster too. moving around in this game just takes too bleepin' long.

Either that or give us freely useable mounts that dismount us when we get aggro.

[Twille]

I have to say, one of my biggest complaints about FFXI is traveling/movement speed. I do have to hand it to SE, they've made some significant improvements to traveling with confluxes in Abyssea, but walking from Point A to Point B in every other area of the game is still horrifically SLOW. I'd be very happy to see the base movement speed increased.