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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by rog View Post
    The first paragraph was used to illustrate a point. Not sure if you know what trolling is.

    And fyi, the point of suggestions is to make improvements. You do not need to choose between what we have now and not playing at all.
    Clearly over exaggerating does not illustrate a point, if any of those things were valid you might have made sense. However it just seemed like a troll attempt.

    But the question must be asked: when was FFXI challenging?
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  2. #62
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    Pchan, holy shit you are wrong. I did g1 for a friend 2 days ago. Took me 30 minutes total. 1/2 on papyrus, 3/3 on coal, and 1/3 on mold.

    g2 took about one hour, from teleport holla to xarcabard without choco.

    g3 takes 2 hours tops, without chocobo.

    g4, i farmed 4 ks for him in about 1 hour, and also got a testimony at the same time.

    He is currently at ~160 GA, which took one hour (he got to ~90 while doing 1-30) of skilling up with retaliation. He was level 60 when we did it, so could have been a lot faster if i waited for 70 with pdt gear, etc.

    g6 will probably take another hour or so to farm seals.

    G7- are easy, and can get crests in abyssea.

    With novenial ring, we got to 30 in about 3 hours duoing war+whm+90rdm, mainly by pulling 5-10 mobs at a time on whm, and spamming banishga to speed shit up, along with FoV.

    From 30, you need 900k exp to reach 90. Assuming 100k exp/hr (easily done solo on blm, let alone more efficient cleaving) that is 9 hours.

    3+9 is 12 hours for exping. Genkais take about 7-10 hours total, including skill up, etc.

    That comes out to 19-22 hours.

    Try again.
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    Last edited by rog; 05-22-2011 at 06:22 AM.

  3. #63
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    What I said you're completely lying. Explain us how you beat laat, can't wait tbh. The easiest job is SAM or rdm. How did you cap your skillzzzz.

    btw we all know abyssea exp is fast, it's definitely NOT the problem. Anyone that has EVER played this game knows runnign arounf is the most time consuming activity.
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    Last edited by MarkovChain; 05-22-2011 at 06:41 AM.

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    Says the person who thinks skilling up takes 30+ hours.
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    Player MarkovChain's Avatar
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    Yes skilling up 1 magic to full takes 30 hours, I confirm, as I have done it an 3 of my mules, and that was JUSR for level 75. It's tiwce longer if you want to cap rdm since you need elemental and enfeebling (assuming you can offord gimp stoneskin for maat). For melee it's still incredibly long. When I came back to the game skilling monk from 75 to 90 took 10 hours with haste and double march, and that is JUST 75-> 90. So explain us how you did it ? In before : you level thf and stole him first time lulz.
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    Use war, and retaliate to skill up, dummy. 20+ mnk mobs hitting you at once goes extremely fast. Recently skilled up my war myself doing that.

    In 3 hours i got:

    scythe: 30->200
    club 122->200
    gs: 50->200
    staff 220->300
    polearm: 40->200

    That is over 200 levels per hour. Granted that was at level 90, in abyssea, with some good pdt gear, but the same thing works on mandies in the tree.

    Why you would use rdm for a first job when trying to reach 90 in under a day is a mystery i will never be able to solve.
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    Last edited by rog; 05-22-2011 at 06:50 AM.

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    I think he also forgot that you don't have to skill up to the lv 90 cap (or even the lv 70 cap) to beat maat the first time, and that you don't have to skillup after that, and that skillups come far faster at lower levels than at the 75 > 90 range.

    Also, whm maat is the easiest. Its a snoozefest, literally. The skillups for divine are much slower than war, and War maat is also one of the easier ones, so whm isn't optimal for rushing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khiinroye View Post
    Also, whm maat is the easiest. Its a snoozefest, literally.
    Not really, since war can get 30 tries at maat in the time it takes whm to skill up divine.
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    I meant in terms of difficulty, not in terms of rushing. I managed to sneak in an edit before your post, too.
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    Last edited by Khiinroye; 05-22-2011 at 07:36 AM.

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    Go do voidwatch and then update wiki.

    GTFO. The game is fine the way it is.
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