ffxi should not be this easy

[Saefinn]

It's easy if you want it to be. SE has made the game more accessible, which is understandable when there's fewer people playing and they can't just cater for its elite players because it needs to cater for a range of players. Simply put: cater more players means more money, at the end of the day SE are still working with FFXI because it generates a decent enough of a cash flow. Not everyone wants to waste a lot needless time in building their characters up, getting equipment, whilst it is possible to hit 90 and complete the missions a lot faster than before, but it's still quite a number of hours put in to do it. I'm not just talking about new players, but also returning players who have gone through it all before. You DON'T have to jump into Aby and hit 90, if you want to take more time over an AF don't jump into a party to fight an NM for seals, instead kill mobs that are less likely to drop them. If you want to take more time over missions and find them a challenge, then do them as you're levelling up not when you're level 90. If you want a challenge, make a challenge and spend less time worrying about how other players are taking the easier option.

Maybe SE should bring content that's a much bigger challenge for those who wish to take it, I'd hazard a guess that's what GoV and Voidwatch were intended for, but I've attempted neither so I can't comment.

[rog]

I do not particularly care if you believe me. I care just enough to explain my position. Which, while sitting in class bored, does not take much.

[Korpg]

Well, maybe if you pay attention in class, you might do well in that class.

Just saying.

[Greatguardian]

Well, maybe if you pay attention in class, you might do well in that class.

Just saying.

Just stop. If it's a serious thread, it's a serious thread. It's no member's job to be the forum police.

[rog]

I have a 100% in the class so far, so...

[Raksha]

I have a 100% in the class so far, so...

Obviously if you payed attention you'd have 110%.

[rog]

Obviously if you payed attention you'd have 110%.

I don't think i can get an A+

[Sama]

Recently a friend of mine started playing ffxi. He just started a new character. It took him less than one day to reach level 90. It took him another day to beat all the missions. The next day he beat shinryu, and got all the good atmas, and abyssites. About one more day later, he had full af3+2. On his fifth day back, he finally finished his empyrean weapon. On his sixth day back, he realized he had beat the game, and had nothing left to do, except watch the credits.

This game should not be that easy. What ever happened to ffxi being "challenging"? What made ffxi so great in the past was that it was challenging. It was not a game where you had everything handed to you on a golden platter. And with each drop, came a sense of accomplishment. But now there is no sense of accomplishment, because it is impossible to overcome any challenges, since after all, no challenges remain in the game.

Please SE, make ffxi challenging again.

I think FF is still challenging; SE make you do all those pointless MoT kills and silly Level 17 NM kills which takes 4-8 hours to pop. You spend a lot of time circling waiting and looking at the screen doing nothing; that's every challenging in deed.

[Yinnyth]

Did the OP's story actually happen? No. Going from level 1-90 in one day is definately possible for any player who already has several 90s, exp rings, friends to help them, etc. But a brand new player with 1 ingame friend would not be able to figure out the controls, general gameplay mechanics, which areas to level in, level from 1-30, get SJ, level SJ to 30, level SJ to 45 by mooching exp in aby, level main job to 50, do LB1, level main job to 55, do LB2, level main job to 60, do LB3, etc. in "less than one day". As if the idea of that happening was not ridiculous enough, some linkshell full of people helped him grind out an empy on his 5th day (which can take 5 days alone just camping the previous trial NMs depending on which NMs you get) in ONE DAY, only to have this complete newb they put so much time and effort into quit the game. Yeah, that story did not happen.

Does the poster raise a good point? Yes and no. Yes because there are several parts of the game which are now just way easier than they should be, but the opposite is also true. Have you tried to kill the neoboss in Dynamis San d'Oria? He certainly ain't no pushover, but the problem is WHY would you kill him when there's no serious reward for doing so. The prime things in the game which make a character powerful can be found in abyssea and abyssea is too easy.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that ever since Abyssea came out, the entire game of FFXI became nothing but abyssea. Since abyssea is too easy, ffxi is too easy. Exp will never be the same thanks to it, but equipment will hopefully someday surpass the equipment you find in abyssea and will hopefully be difficult to obtain.

[rog]

Did the OP's story actually happen? No. Going from level 1-90 in one day is definately possible for any player who already has several 90s, exp rings, friends to help them, etc. But a brand new player with 1 ingame friend would not be able to figure out the controls, general gameplay mechanics, which areas to level in, level from 1-30, get SJ, level SJ to 30, level SJ to 45 by mooching exp in aby, level main job to 50, do LB1, level main job to 55, do LB2, level main job to 60, do LB3, etc. in "less than one day".

With one friend? It most certainly is possible, seeing as they do not need to do half of that (hey, go to x zone, kill y mobs, while i spam cures on you with my 90 rdm). Sub jobs are not required to reach level 90. Also, that is not how you do genkais. You do g1, get level 51, then go g2, get 60, do g3, get 61, do g4, get 70, then maat,+g6, etc. Unless you like resetting chains i guess.

Leveling to 90 in one day was probably the most realistic thing in my OP, other than full af3+2.