Raise the Minimum Requirement for entering Abyssea to Lv70 or 75

[Sparthos]

Why should you need friends to do something as simple as EXP?

The game already had pretty much very few new players and whatever new players that happen to stumble upon this game are in for a whirl when they can't leech and have to solo the game to 75.

I know all the benefits of good leeching but ultimately it'll be the death of the game and no amount of FoV grindage will change that. Most of us are just happy to be able to cap a job for expediency sake but the health of the game is bound to suffer - just observe EXP alliances primarily made up of 4-6 AFKers hugging the Dominion Ops NPC.

[Romanova]

Why bother leeching? Just buy accounts with real money, play with the jobs until you get bored, and then take up buying pre-built model airplanes as a hobby. After all, the point of model airplanes is having model airplanes, right?

leeching is free and not against the TOS, terrible example is terrible.

A simple /sea all 30-75 during NA prime right now is pulling up 12 people across 45 levels LFP. Yeah, safe to say that PT wont be happening and you'll be soloing if you don't get the opportunity to leech.

Bad luck is bad luck or new pts were just formed. As I said from a multitude of xp seeking over these past three months I have gotten parties faster than before. It only takes 6 people to form a party and level sync makes levels not an issue but the old issue of: tanks.

Really the complaint to lack of regular parties is because SE still has only given us 2 tank classes. If you got rid of abysea there maybe 309458435 people seeking in comparison, but the tank to dd ratio is still going to be way off, which is not the fault of abysea at all.


Again, I've had zero issue getting regular pts in a normal amount of time, and have gotten them faster than I did back in the old days.

[rog]

I know all the benefits of good leeching but ultimately it'll be the death of the game and no amount of FoV grindage will change that. Most of us are just happy to be able to cap a job for expediency sake but the health of the game is bound to suffer - just observe EXP alliances primarily made up of 4-6 AFKers hugging the Dominion Ops NPC.

I like my alliances with 17 leeches.

[Akujima]

Really the complaint to lack of regular parties is because SE still has only given us 2 tank classes. If you got rid of abysea there maybe 309458435 people seeking in comparison, but the tank to dd ratio is still going to be way off, which is not the fault of abysea at all.

Correct. And that was the fault of SE's, with decision to let the player base decide how jobs are played. Instead of defining 3~4 jobs as one's that could actually tank effectively, they decided to sweep all their old problems under the rug with Abyssea.

Utsusemi was somewhat to blame as well.

[Romanova]

Correct. And that was the fault of SE's, with decision to let the player base decide how jobs are played. Instead of defining 3~4 jobs as one's that could actually tank effectively, they decided to sweep all their old problems under the rug with Abyssea.

Utsusemi was somewhat to blame as well.

you are focusing your complaint in the wrong area. All that could have been solved either creating a new tank class or tweaking an old class so it can be an excellent tank. leechers/abysea is not the problem.

[Akujima]

you are focusing your complaint in the wrong area. All that could have been solved either creating a new tank class or tweaking an old class so it can be an excellent tank. leechers/abysea is not the problem.

It is because it adds to the tank problem. Tanks are not needed inside Abyssea, and PLD being left in the dust just proves that. Nobody is going to deny that PLD is one of the most extinct classes inside Abyss.

[Romanova]

It is because it adds to the tank problem. Tanks are not needed inside Abyssea, and PLD being left in the dust just proves that. Nobody is going to deny that PLD is one of the most extinct classes inside Abyss.

then they need to fix pld, not get rid of leechers....

you can't even focus anymore, you're just taking shots. smn bad? because abyssea! seals low drop? because abyssea! so on and so on.

You are just blaming everything on it, without taking an objective look as to where the real issues lie.

[Akujima]

then they need to fix pld, not get rid of leechers...

I agreed with you on the first point, but you've missed my point. They need to do more than just 1 thing. They need to do several.

Fix PLD
Get rid of leechers
Add other Tank classes
Make "Tanking" Actually viable again.

[Romanova]

I agreed with you on the first point, but you've missed my point. They need to do more than just 1 thing. They need to do several.

Fix PLD
Get rid of leechers
Add other Tank classes
Make "Tanking" Actually viable again.

they don't need to get rid of leechers though, and the way you post you act like the other problems are another reason to get rid of them.

Again, don't party with leechers if you don't like leechers.

[Akujima]

Again, don't party with leechers if you don't like leechers.

I dont care if people wanna sit AFK, watch a movie while scarfing down some Hagen Daz ice cream and leech EXP in Abyss. I really don't care why anyone wants to leech or how they think it's a fun thing to do.

You are missing my point entirely.

Leeching affects me, because it allows the player base to skip over 80% of the content in the game. I want to experience that content and I want to be able to group up with people to do just that.