Raise the Minimum Requirement for entering Abyssea to Lv70 or 75

[Leonlionheart]

Joined a pt of 6 for Exp? Cheating
Soloing mobs for Exp? Cheating
Made a mule to hold gear? Cheating
Used the Wiki? Cheating
Asked someone for advice? Cheating
Went Afk? Cheating
Changed gear while using a JA? Cheating
Started playing FFXI? Cheating
Zoned? Cheating
Warped? Cheating
Blood warped? Botting
Died? Cheating

When this post gets as much or nearly as much likes as the OP (which should have much more publicity) you know that there is a problem with the original idea.

[Akujima]

When this post gets as much or nearly as much likes as the OP (which should have much more publicity) you know that there is a problem with the original idea.

There is nothing wrong with being apart of the minority. Just because an angry mob attacks you, doesn't mean that we should give up and join them. Those amongst the minority are forced to learn their lessons the hard way, because the majority refuse to learn their lessons at all.

I know where these forums are heading. They're heading into a clash of who can withstand the longest belittling. Those who "win" are those who don't cave in. There wont be any equal compromise or collaborative efforts, about how to work towards creating a healthy balance. Anyone who speaks out about a topic they believe has merit, will just be consistently attacked and drown out, pushed to the side and ridiculed.

So there you go. You won. But not because you are right, but because you are the majority.

I see no reason to post further, in this thread or any other.

[Myrrh]

hey're heading into a clash of who can withstand the longest belittling. Those who "win" are those who don't cave in. There wont be any equal compromise or collaborative efforts, about how to work towards creating a healthy balance. Anyone who speaks out about a topic they believe has merit, will just be consistently attacked and drown out, pushed to the side and ridiculed.

WHAT DID I JUST READ!?

[Greatguardian]

I see no reason to post further, in this thread or any other.

If I had a nickel.

Protip: If you're in such an extreme minority and cannot simply deal with the things you don't like (like everyone else), you are always welcome to try out different games.

You are not required to play FFXI just because it has history and has "Final Fantasy" in the title.

[Kimble]

He has said several times he was done posting but yet, he keeps responding, lol.

Stick to your guns man!

[Aliekber]

You won. But not because you are right, but because you are the majority.

Of course winning doesn't make us right. But being right to begin with sure helps with winning.

[Kindra]

The problem is Akujima you can't expect people to bend to how you think this game should be. People like abyssea. I know that you don't and that's fine. But you can't expect everyone to agree with you. It is a matter of opinion. And we all know that everyone has their own Opinions.

Here is an example of my opinion, I happen to like Old school PT's. By Old school I mean a party with a Tank 2 DD's that skill chain BLM for magic bursting, RDM and WHM. As a BLM i had asked many PT's to make skill chain's. Once I was told that "It would kill the mob to fast so no." or heres another fav "But that weapon skill sucks for damage." While both are true I don't see a prob with a mob dieing fast lol. But I do understand that DD's like to use there highest damage weaponskill. Even if it means that during the leveling process many BLM's didn't learn to Magic burst. Can I force them to do skill chains? No they will do what they want. I may not like it but hey it's not going to change.

As for the accomplishment side. I don't know why how someone else levels effects anothers sense of accomplishment. Your accomplishment is your accomplishment. Theirs is not your accomplishment. Your accomplishment hasn't gone anywhere. Let's say I level one way and my man levels another, we both finished getting up there he feels accomplished & so do I. Did I effect his accomplishment just because I leveled a different way? No he still has it & feels it. His doesn't effect me in anyway either. Again this is a matter of Opinion. Just because someone doesn't do something the same way you do doesn't mean its wrong.

Btw my skill chain >>> Magic burst thing really did happen lol. And yes I do think its more fun to do, but I had to take my own advice and say to myself not everyone feels the same way. My friends still do them sometimes though so I have fun with that.

[Chocobits]

So wait, are we right because we won, or won because we were right?

You're beggin' me to go, you're makin' me stay
Why do you hurt me so bad?
It would help me to know
Do I stand in your way, or am I the best thing you've had?
Believe me, believe me, I can't tell you why
But I'm trapped by your love, and I'm chained to your side


We are young, heartache to heartache we stand
No promises, no demands
Love Is A Battlefield

[Romanova]

So there you go. You won. But not because you are right, but because you are the majority.

wewt, WE WON GUYS.

[Sayelle]

So wait, are we right because we won, or won because we were right?

According to Akujima we won because we are more resilient than he is, and we refuse to change. Oh the ironing...