Raise the Minimum Requirement for entering Abyssea to Lv70 or 75

[Leonlionheart]

Oh I'm sorry let me correct that last sentence then.

A Variety of Fun, Dynamic and Challenging Gameplay.

FFXI (especially Pre-Abyssea) is Fun to LvUp in. EXP PT's can pick from 6/20 jobs, all that interact differently with eachother. Everyone out there complaining of "grinding all the time" is definately playing the game too much and a needed break/reality check, would do everyone some good.

"Fun" is not limited to your personal opinion.

[Romanova]

Sorry I haven't played WoW since Burning Crusade and I heard somewhere the new LvCap is 85. If not then it should still be 80.

the level cap in BC wasn't 80 either...sounds a lot of saving face in here.


[edit] ah my bad I had to remember 'cause I was like wtf. it is 85 I was still thinking wotlk.

bc was 70 though.

my fault totally.

my point however, is when people complained about it being too hard they gave us wotlk, then people complained it was too easy then they gave us cata. Now they are complaining it's too hard again, so something easier is sure to come with the next expansion.

The devs there are just a lot more quickly to change things than here. But yes people complain constantly about all kinds of retarded shit over there, including xp.

[Ravenmore]

Aku you said you left for 3 years, you then didn't go though the hell that was merit camps when people would bring 2 brds 4 dds and have a outside healer just to run people out of camps. AB were bigger then you think, the camps used for ABs were always full of poeple selling leech spots and cor mules placed in bastok.

[Ravenmore]

There was no varity to exping once the player base woke up and seen that targeting IT++ was not a effective way to exp. When you could chain Ts VTs and get more exp over time with more flexable groups not needing blms or whm+rdm. Nothing was change just people got over seening big exp per kill.

[RaenRyong]

Oh I'm sorry let me correct that last sentence then.

A Variety of Fun, Dynamic and Challenging Gameplay.

FFXI (especially Pre-Abyssea) is Fun to LvUp in. EXP PT's can pick from 6/20 jobs, all that interact differently with eachother. Everyone out there complaining of "grinding all the time" is definately playing the game too much and a needed break/reality check, would do everyone some good.

How do exp parties display any kind of variety other than "good" and "bad"? Old EXP:

Crabs. Crabs. Crabs.

Slightly less old but still outdated exp:

Birds. Birds. Birds.

There was precious little variety unless you wanted it to be extremely slow. EXP parties can pick from 20 jobs... really? At least half of those would never be considered unless the party sucks or you are a friend of the leader. Do you imply that stalking Bards and levelling "merit jobs" is a fun kind of gameplay?

Rose-tinted glasses going on here I think.

[rog]

Crabs. Crabs. Crabs. [...]

There was precious little variety unless you wanted it to be extremely slow.

what?

123457890

[Akujima]

bc was 70 though.

I know BC was 70cap, I played alot of PvP during Season 2~4 Arena. I quit just as WotLK came out.

Using the argument of "well it's your opinion, so opinions don't really matter to everyone" is hypocritical to say the very least... Because THAT's your opinion! Forums are about hearing peoples opinions about how the game is developing and how it should be developed.

And... Ugh, I'm done posting on these forums for awhile. These little nit-picking arguments are just getting ridiculous.

[RaenRyong]

what?

123457890

Speed relative to the top end experience gaining speed at the time~

[Akujima]

Do you imply that stalking Bards and levelling "merit jobs" is a fun kind of gameplay?

Just because you followed the cookie-cutter way of doing absolutely everything, doesn't mean that there weren't equally as good solutions for EXP camps out there. It's not my fault you can't think of any. And if people asked me in reply "What's your PT setup?". I immediately told them "Nvm, I'll get someone else". Because I can't stand the cookie-cutter attitude that's been growing and growing like wildfire since the games inception.

[Leonlionheart]

How do exp parties display any kind of variety other than "good" and "bad"? Old EXP:

Crabs. Crabs. Crabs.

Slightly less old but still outdated exp:

Birds. Birds. Birds.

There was precious little variety unless you wanted it to be extremely slow. EXP parties can pick from 20 jobs... really? At least half of those would never be considered unless the party sucks or you are a friend of the leader. Do you imply that stalking Bards and levelling "merit jobs" is a fun kind of gameplay?

Rose-tinted glasses going on here I think.

I've said this a dozen times to Akujima in this thread already, but the discussion goes on with no real progression.