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    Player Miera's Avatar
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    Not this again!
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    You've been trolled! You've been trolled you have probably been told, "don't reply to this guy, he is just getting a rise out of you," yes its true you respond and that's his cue to start trouble on the double while he strokes his manly stubble. You've been trolled you've been trolled you should probably just fold when the only winning move is not to play! And yet you keep on trying mindlessly replying, you've been trolled, you've been trolled, have a nice day!

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    Not this again...
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    It's too late now anyway. Killing abyssea leeching now would give everyone who did it an enormous advantage over those that didn't start doing it in time. It would make things worse for new players, or returning players, while not affecting the players who already did it at all.
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    (before you read, please understand, I don't actually want them to delete old content, but this seems to be the reality of the situation for me)

    From a business perspective they've really botched their own game up because frankly, we are loaded with (virtually) useless expansion content that no one needs to do anymore, zones upon zones that are unused for XP or quests or missions or otherwise, because all the lower level stuff is irrelevant now. They can't release a new full expansion because they are too close to their hard drive limit on the PS2.

    The sad reality is that they basically killed their old game and now the old content is filling our hard drives, stuff that doesn't appeal to the people who practically live in Abyssea and leech all their jobs to 90. It hasn't just killed exping, its killed crafting too, since now 90% of all gear crafters have garbage recipes since no one gives a care about the lower level game anymore since Abyssea made it all irrelevant. There really isn't a ton of logic in anything that they are doing. It would make far more sense to just straight up delete all of the old content that no one plays anymore so they could make new content that people will buy and play, since all their actions indicate that they want the game to be all Abyssea now. Yet they won't get rid of the old content because they have some strange warped point of view that we'll all return to the old content once we're done with our fun in Abyssea. It isn't working out quite like that at all.

    Leaving the cap ensures that experience parties will stay dead and all the expansions before Abyssea are basically trash data. Raising the cap would force players back into those zones, would raise the demand for good gear at lower levels, and, god forbid, actually force people to play the video game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aliekber View Post
    No, I like being able to powerlevel new subs/mains.
    Powerlevel? You mean leech?

    Leeching and PLing are two different thing nowaday.

    With the new valor system you get sooooooo much more xp from killing mobs outside abyssea area. You people don't do it just because you are lazy and rely on others to kill and help you level. That's LEECH.

    SE raised the xp on outside mob as well removed the time limit on valor page was supposed to be for people 'powerlevel' themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    It's too late now anyway. Killing abyssea leeching now would give everyone who did it an enormous advantage over those that didn't start doing it in time. It would make things worse for new players, or returning players, while not affecting the players who already did it at all.
    Hey, I and everyone else who leveled up any job to 75 before Abyssea came out were already screwed over then by Abyssea leeching since we had to take the time to level all that stuff up before it became easy like it has. It 100% would not make things worse for new players since raising the cap would force there to be more lower level parties which is what most lower level people are looking to do anyways, and I hardly think returning players would be all that steamed either. The only people who would be upset about it are the ones who actively rely on trading keys to boxes to get their jobs up.
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    And the game will slowly dwindle down to it's inevitable end when people get to 99 and no new people are joining. The forums will be the same as they are now, filled with complaints that there is nothing to do, why no new content, why no new areas, why this, why that, can you sell me in-game content for all the gear/jobs I need to get to 99 in 1 day. FFXI is but a passing moment in the bigger picture. Enjoy the moment, regardless of your opinions.
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    Proud to be "Old School" and to have completed CoP pre-nerf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avina View Post
    Hey, I and everyone else who leveled up any job to 75 before Abyssea came out were already screwed over then by Abyssea leeching since we had to take the time to level all that stuff up before it became easy like it has. It 100% would not make things worse for new players since raising the cap would force there to be more lower level parties which is what most lower level people are looking to do anyways, and I hardly think returning players would be all that steamed either. The only people who would be upset about it are the ones who actively rely on trading keys to boxes to get their jobs up.
    Speak for yourself.
    I leveled 6 jobs to lvl75 before abyssea
    And I for one, don't feel screwed that there is an option to do this.
    I had friends who quit ffxi because the game took too much time before.
    Even tho now exp rates are quicker, abyssea is still king, And since A few returning players came, I helped them to leach their job to lvl90 and spam missions and other contents with them, including Abyssea since we enjoyed gaming together..

    I enjoy gaming with new players, teaching them how job mechanics work, and getting their lvls asap so I can do contents with them. I do old content too but not the ones that bore me of course.

    Plus, ever since abyssea, Now I got 10 jobs at lvl90.
    I took 4 jobs to abyssea and leached. I never knew I would ever enjoy playing or even learning those 4 new jobs I got.
    Blu. BLM, pup, and sam, where the jobs btw.

    So don't say people who played before abyssea where screwed cause we still enjoy this content and some of us like how it is compared to before.

    I for one, am one of those who feels more relieved.
    Might even ask my RL friend who quit the game to join the game again since we could do contents together once I get him leaching. There are so many things to do in FFXI, I still think there is a lot of hopes left.
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    1. True Gamers plays to have fun.
    2. True Gamers don't play to waste time.
    3. True Gamers Aren't wasting time if they enjoy the contents they play while progressing.
    4. Gamers Love to see progression based on time/effort they put into challenges.
    5. Gamers plays for challenging Elements, and Wants more Enjoyable contents.
    6. Gamers don't play for Time Sink Elements, and Don't want A game to be a Chore!
    All Gamers Unite!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sama View Post
    Powerlevel? You mean leech?

    Leeching and PLing are two different thing nowaday.
    Yeah, not like I can solo entire camps on BLM on one account to PL the other, along with any LS mates who need XP.
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    Aliekber of Carbamesh
    RDM BLU SCH DRG PLD BLM NIN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avina View Post
    From a business perspective they've really botched their own game up because frankly, we are loaded with (virtually) useless expansion content that no one needs to do anymore, zones upon zones that are unused for XP or quests or missions or otherwise, because all the lower level stuff is irrelevant now.

    Excellent post. Why is this an excellent post you ask? Because it puts forth strong and valid points that should not be overlooked.

    I was basically saying the same thing in my Original Post, that SE butchered their game completely. Forcing the cap to 70 or 75 would make the game last longer, be more enjoyable by exploring new area's and allow for people to actually skill up and learn their jobs before they hit max level.

    Give us one good reason why they should NOT raise the cap up to 70 or 75, to enter Abyssea?... Because Avina and I just gave you several reasons why they should.
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