WoEs

[Ravenmore]

The whole leech thing is overdone and off topic. Groups can win without leeches, leeches will have their "I'm helping so I should be able to lot!" attitude. They're referred to as leeches because they are not needed to win, and thus the group sees them as contributing nothing. The leech cannot get the main chest and bonus chest without the group, but the group can get them without the leech, and thus can miss out on coins and bonus chests when a leech is present. The view is that the leech is following them because they will get a chance to lot these extra drops that they couldn't get on their own, at the expense of the people who are able to actually do the work to earn them. Yes, some drops are still worth quite a bit of gil. A pickup group should almost always accept random people in the zone, but a non-pickup group usually won't.

Its aggravating when there are 6-7 people trying to solo or duo, and 3 or 4 follow your group into a conflux instead of teaming up with the other people and doing #2.

As to the OP:
#2 is easily done in a pickup group of a few melees / mages and a sac for the small slimes.
#5 and #7 are routinely done by pet burns. From what I've seen, its usually smn for 7, and smn and bst for 5, though I can see pup fitting in on both of those.

SE set it up for free for all so they are not doing anything wrong. This is why the event failed. You can't set up any point based LS system and doing so is a waste of time. You can't even set up a set time since the solo players would notice and come every run too. SE could have fixed this from the start. When your on a server with 2000 other players on at the same time as you who cares if that LS looks down on you. Do I like it no but it was the way it was put in

[Alhanelem]

You're wasting your time in WoE if you're solo starting from 0 coins. Go to Abyssea.

Go to abyssea and do what? buy drops from other groups? I don't know any weapons that can be soloed up to the weaponskill by anyone.

[Sparthos]

Go to abyssea and do what? buy drops from other groups? I don't know any weapons that can be soloed up to the weaponskill by anyone.

If you are going to be soloing WoE without a group from scratch for a weapon, you're better off doing Abyssea, getting a group to kill NMs and slowly working your way up to the Empyrean.

It isn't like XI has anything else to offer atm other than Abyssea - it's where most people are.

Soloing coins by killing the trash mobs could keep you in WoE for months. The only time doing WoE is worth it is if you can clear chambers consistently and even that fails outside flux7 due to the randomness of coinpurses in the main pool.

[Zagen]

Go to abyssea and do what? buy drops from other groups? I don't know any weapons that can be soloed up to the weaponskill by anyone.

Great Katana, Gun, Great Sword...
Carabosse - NIN/DNC
Cirein-croin - RDM, BLM, SCH all can solo it.

There you go and that's without brews.

With Luck I could see a NIN/DNC soloing Katana but Sobek tends to be a jerk a lot.

[Zetonegi]

Go to abyssea and do what? buy drops from other groups? I don't know any weapons that can be soloed up to the weaponskill by anyone.

NIN/DNC solo triggers then PUG the NM or just PUG the triggers and have em change jobs for the NM. Its not hard to do and you can get a decent number of pops done per run if you PUG triggers+NM. If you're against PUGing it or asking your LS to help then that's your problem and you're making it artificially more difficult on yourself and it doesn't change the fact that WoE is a horribly implemented system and its much easier to get an empy if you actually use all the tools available to you instead of blatantly shunning them.

[Alhanelem]

getting a group

Getting a group to kill NMs for you and give you these drops is not as simple as you think for many people.

[Ravenmore]

Getting a group to kill NMs for you and give you these drops is not as simple as you think for many people.

Yeah it is I see shout groups all the time doing this, not even the same group of people doing it. Whats funny is they shout for sobak or carabosse and they are at 6 shouting for more. Pugs being pugs safety in numbers I geuss.

[Alhanelem]

Yeah it is I see shout groups all the time doing this

1) Not all of those shout groups happen
2) you're right, it's not the same people doing it; that's what makes it so hard. You might get lucky and get one group that pops it once one day, some other group that pops it next week, yada yada. More often than not the people running it want what you want, thus you can't have it. The only likely exception is if you're doing staff, because no other weapon shares the same trial NM and nobody wants it.

It is not a simple matter. Just because you see people shouting for one of several different NMs here and tehre does not mean it's easy to join them AND get what you want.

When you're soloing/duoing with a friend, you have control over when you do stuff and you dont have competition. The unpopularity of WoE makes that even less of a problem. And again, with WoE, it's only one difficult, time consuming trial, not three (And if by some stroke of luck you DO have a group to do it with, you can probably get all three trials done in a day)

[Zagen]

1) Not all of those shout groups happen
2) you're right, it's not the same people doing it; that's what makes it so hard. You might get lucky and get one group that pops it once one day, some other group that pops it next week, yada yada. More often than not the people running it want what you want, thus you can't have it. The only likely exception is if you're doing staff, because no other weapon shares the same trial NM and nobody wants it.

It is not a simple matter. Just because you see people shouting for one of several different NMs here and tehre does not mean it's easy to join them AND get what you want.

When you're soloing/duoing with a friend, you have control over when you do stuff and you dont have competition. The unpopularity of WoE makes that even less of a problem. And again, with WoE, it's only one difficult, time consuming trial, not three (And if by some stroke of luck you DO have a group to do it with, you can probably get all three trials done in a day)

You'd be the one shouting... thus you'd make the rules to get what you want. Sure not all of the groups happen but a lot of them do at least on my server they do since I see the same people who shouted for Briareus now shouting for Sobek.

You sound like no matter what options are presented you won't be happy. Guess what you're the one holding you back not the other players on the server or in this forum.

It is really simple pick one of these options:
1. Make a few friends (3 at most is needed) who play similar schedules, and decide on Emps to do together.
2. Shout for PUG people wanting +2 items to help you get emp items.
3. Shout for PUG people to do WoE with you.
4. Suck it up, accept you're playing an MMO and refuse to take part in the "multiplayer" part of an MMO and solo for coins.

If none of these options are acceptable to you well you're playing the wrong genre of game.

[Ravenmore]

Hell one of the crap layers from titan shouted up every single NM he needed for his Almace. Seems he was good at shouting for help and getting it. People shout all the time for emp. weapon mobs offering the +2s as the carrot it seems to work. After a couple of days they move on to the next stage and start over. That is what I meant with not seeing the same people trying over and over. Guku is not even that big of a road block. I'm seeing more and more FC leech spot sellers in the coast now. If the shout says it's going to last 5 or so hours think how many KIs you will see.