WoEs

[Alhanelem]

Unless your server has flux7 open, WoE is a waste of time for 30 coins.

The only thing that is going to fix the zone is making coins extremely common, removing the pointless 30min lockdown and having some way of trading in useless bags (Ruin hi) for another through an NPC.

flux 7? What's wrong with 1/2/3? 1 and 3 are easily solo/duo farmed, and 2 is easily winnable with a small group.

A campaign system would have worked okay if the event was enticing enough and was not much more difficult than campaign that people would have actually done it in greater numbers.

[Sparthos]

flux 7? What's wrong with 1/2/3? 1 and 3 are easily solo/duo farmed, and 2 is easily winnable with a small group.

Flux 7 has a high chance of 3-4 pouches in the pool after a win.

1/2/3 do not have that chance.

[Khiinroye]

The whole leech thing is overdone and off topic. Groups can win without leeches, leeches will have their "I'm helping so I should be able to lot!" attitude. They're referred to as leeches because they are not needed to win, and thus the group sees them as contributing nothing. The leech cannot get the main chest and bonus chest without the group, but the group can get them without the leech, and thus can miss out on coins and bonus chests when a leech is present. The view is that the leech is following them because they will get a chance to lot these extra drops that they couldn't get on their own, at the expense of the people who are able to actually do the work to earn them. Yes, some drops are still worth quite a bit of gil. A pickup group should almost always accept random people in the zone, but a non-pickup group usually won't.

Its aggravating when there are 6-7 people trying to solo or duo, and 3 or 4 follow your group into a conflux instead of teaming up with the other people and doing #2.

As to the OP:
#2 is easily done in a pickup group of a few melees / mages and a sac for the small slimes.
#5 and #7 are routinely done by pet burns. From what I've seen, its usually smn for 7, and smn and bst for 5, though I can see pup fitting in on both of those.

[Ravenmore]

The whole leech thing is overdone and off topic. Groups can win without leeches, leeches will have their "I'm helping so I should be able to lot!" attitude. They're referred to as leeches because they are not needed to win, and thus the group sees them as contributing nothing. The leech cannot get the main chest and bonus chest without the group, but the group can get them without the leech, and thus can miss out on coins and bonus chests when a leech is present. The view is that the leech is following them because they will get a chance to lot these extra drops that they couldn't get on their own, at the expense of the people who are able to actually do the work to earn them. Yes, some drops are still worth quite a bit of gil. A pickup group should almost always accept random people in the zone, but a non-pickup group usually won't.

Its aggravating when there are 6-7 people trying to solo or duo, and 3 or 4 follow your group into a conflux instead of teaming up with the other people and doing #2.

As to the OP:
#2 is easily done in a pickup group of a few melees / mages and a sac for the small slimes.
#5 and #7 are routinely done by pet burns. From what I've seen, its usually smn for 7, and smn and bst for 5, though I can see pup fitting in on both of those.

SE set it up for free for all so they are not doing anything wrong. This is why the event failed. You can't set up any point based LS system and doing so is a waste of time. You can't even set up a set time since the solo players would notice and come every run too. SE could have fixed this from the start. When your on a server with 2000 other players on at the same time as you who cares if that LS looks down on you. Do I like it no but it was the way it was put in

[Taint2]

The worst part of WoE is the GD CS you have to do each time. They could atleast make yes the top answer so you can spam it.

[Sparthos]

The concept of a pool like Campaign has always been suspect.

WoE needs to be a point system like Einherjar.

[Alhanelem]

Flux 7 has a high chance of 3-4 pouches in the pool after a win.

Unless you can win it solo, it's a moot point.

[Sparthos]

Unless you can win it solo, it's a moot point.

You're wasting your time in WoE if you're solo starting from 0 coins. Go to Abyssea.

If you're doing WoE in a group, flux7 is the best bang for your buck. It can be petburned, kited easily and has that high chance of pouches.

No other flux has the rate that flux7 can have.

[Alhanelem]

You're wasting your time in WoE if you're solo starting from 0 coins. Go to Abyssea.

Go to abyssea and do what? buy drops from other groups? I don't know any weapons that can be soloed up to the weaponskill by anyone.

[Sparthos]

Go to abyssea and do what? buy drops from other groups? I don't know any weapons that can be soloed up to the weaponskill by anyone.

If you are going to be soloing WoE without a group from scratch for a weapon, you're better off doing Abyssea, getting a group to kill NMs and slowly working your way up to the Empyrean.

It isn't like XI has anything else to offer atm other than Abyssea - it's where most people are.

Soloing coins by killing the trash mobs could keep you in WoE for months. The only time doing WoE is worth it is if you can clear chambers consistently and even that fails outside flux7 due to the randomness of coinpurses in the main pool.