WoEs

[Dragoy]

Yes, they were going to make it once per day (earth time) and reserved, but they obviously changed their minds on that.

As for the no treasure from the regular monsters, that's something I brought up here as well already before that recent info, which is not too clear about it either.
It does look like there will be absolutely no rewards unless the battlefield is successfully cleared, which will obviously look grim for those who are unable to pull that off...


Basically it looks OK on some parts to me, but really unsure of the rest.
Still interested to see what it will come out to be.

[Karbuncle]

I believe this is the most recent post on WOE

Yes, I know -.- Olor

Check my post date. When i made that post he quoted, The "once per vana'day" was the most recent info. I made that post based off of that thing i quoted. then the new info came out, and he quoted my post i made before the new info like i said it after thee new info.

i was pointing out that that post was made before the new info you quoted was available.

[greatpumpkin327]

I think the term leech is thrown around too loosely when it comes to WOE.
Yes, of course you are a leech if you just sit there and lot and also
if you come solo on a job that can't pull enough weight.

I understand if a group gathered to do WOE and you crash the party it's
considered bad form, but sometimes I see 4 people enter and get mad when
a 5th comes in. In my opinion that's just greedy since it wastes a chest.

And even if your a group of 5 or 6 and a NIN comes into your slime run
(with decent gear and skill) he will improve your winning speed by at
least 10%. If it would have took you 40 minutes to win, that's saving
4 minutes total on the run, and will start your cooldown timer earlier so
you can do again.

Even though you could have won without the NIN, I think he earn the 10%
of the coins that he would probably get on average (but probably less than 10%).

On the other hand though, I do know how frustrating it is when someone comes into
your run and blows the whole thing because they don't know how to play.

I've tried to solo/duo all my glory coins and it was going well up until 5 days ago. Since then
I have only won 1 coin. I need 5 more and it's going super slow. Seen about 25 ruin drop and
about 5 other glory that I lost to lots from people entering in late. Most of my time was wasted
because noobs will train ants up the stairs if they get MB aggro rather than going away and dying.

[Dragoy]

Has anyone tried with a party or more on the test-server?
I did one run at antlions and one at crabs, solo, and all I noticed was:

• No loot from little ones, at all (...).
• Warning messages when the monsteres 'thirst fer blood' meaning they're coming for a look-see (nice).
• Auto-reraise (yay).

Other than that, the monsters seem as tough as before, so it would seem just as I feared: No more soloing, duoing, or even trioing them coins...

Was it not supposed to be improved?
This is it?

I
Don't
Get
It
...

[Raksha]

No more soloing, duoing, or even trioing them coins...

Was it not supposed to be improved?

Sounds like an improvement to me.

[Dragoy]

No more soloing, duoing, or even trioing them coins...

Was it not supposed to be improved?

Sounds like an improvement to me.

I take it that you are those who have more than few people to do it with, and/or you've had bad experiences with 'leechers' there, so I fully understand that.

However I/we never 'leeched' nor did I have bad experiences with people doing so. Probably mainly because the place was either empty, or we would just team up with the others (usually Japanese).

So for the likes of me, it certainly is not an improvement. =/
At this rate, I really would be better off creating Empyrean weapons solo/duo\trio, since this, as it is now on the test, will seem impossible.

[Mirage]

How about open access, but rewards limited to the alliance that makes the kills? That way, soloers can still enter whenever they want, regardless of who else is in the area, but organized groups will keep the drops from mobs they claimed to themselves.

Regardless of what's done, I think it is crucial that the WoE empyrean-lite weapons are significantly less troublesome to make than the real empyrean weapons. Both if you want to create this weapon with just a small amount of people (2-3) or a large alliance.

[Xellith]

Sounds like an improvement to me.

Yea Ill just be off duoing my FULL EMPYREAN while someone cant solo or duo a lesser weapon.

MY BRAN JUST PLODED!

[Leonlionheart]

Level SMN, and they are already fifty times easier to make than Empyrean weapons (besides masa/cala/arma).

I leveled SMN specifically for WoE, and I'm pretty glad I did since it's the premier DD for Voidwatch.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Level SMN

Yay, yet more content built around the concept of "Level another job, n00b!"

If I said I was surprised, I'd be lying.