WoEs

[Nynja]

1. Level BLM, BST, RNG, BLU, SMN
2. Do flux 7 (Almost always drops 2~4 sacks)
3. Finish weapon

You can finish in one run if lucky, two if unlucky.

Hard fight if you suck at kiting, but I've seen two SMNs do it before.

Old post to quote, but I couldnt find any videos of the NM being fought really...how do 2 smn's duo it really? Just throw avatars at it?

[Leonlionheart]

Old post to quote, but I couldnt find any videos of the NM being fought really...how do 2 smn's duo it really? Just throw avatars at it?

Yep, they were freaking amazing SMNs though. It should be noted that I didn't mean they completely duo'd it. They had COR and RDM backup.

The jist of the fight is just stay away, and BP as often as possible.

5 SMN should have no issue, 3 SMN 2 BST might be even easier, throw in a COR and you'll finish every weapon in a day.

[Mordanthos]

to be honest, i have a WoE Great Axe, and a Ukon. If your goal is to solo in WoE just stop while your ahead, its going to take an ungodly amount of time to finish 30 coins that way and you're doing it wrong. Get some people and do conflux 2 runs, its relatively easy, and very fast. Its not worth your time to solo that place, the drops are too random. It took me 4 weeks to complete the 30 coins because i had no help. It took me 5 hardcore 12 hour sessions on Glavoid to finish 50 shells with just 5 of us.

Ultimately the WoE can be faster if you do it right, and thats by doing cleared conflux runs. If your not going to complete it for Pouches, then just quit wasting your time and do the Emp.

[Concerned4FFxi]

i do empyrean, but to skill up my smn and just out of boredom i do WOE whenever i see a shout in jueno. Also, it gives me a little practice on snm. Your right i prefer only clears, i always seem to rank as the top smn in conflux 5, number two overall right behind the bst lol. I always get a coin pouch in my secondus chest so i dont really bother to lot on coins in the treasure pool + like I said i do empyrean so i dont really need the coins. To date im 28/30 coins of decays and i have 10-20 of a few other coins just from occasionally doing woe shouts and placing in the top 5. So i feel that woe, while yes nobody does it, its still so much easier than empyrean and to be honest unless you have a two-handed empyrean or a low delay one like h2h the only thing i feel thats great is the weapons skill because the additional damage effect just dont proc enough for me on almace. I'll problably do a few WOE weapons to fill in the gap so i'll be spending less time on future empyrean/relic/mythic

[Dragoy]

Also, it gives me a little practice on snm.

I grinned. :]

Most annoying leech we ever had was on our first (and last) attempt at flux 5. We were kiting the boss because we were having difficulties. Guess what our difficulties were? An idiot rdm with a joyeuse feeding the thing wayyyyyy too much TP and not taking hate because he was hardly doing damage.

People threatened to leave the linkshell if we kept doing that crappily made event.

You obviously had a lot of bad luck with having such people around. It really is not like that all the time, and it most certainly should not mean you, or anyone else should be against them 'soloers'.
Makes me wonder, though, what are the players in that Linkshell for, if they say that...


This is a general remark, not towards anyone in particular, but like I mentioned before, I've got quite bad behaviour and comments towards me just because I was waiting for a Conflux to 'open', and they were going to go for it as well, assuming I/we were going to leech I guess. This will fersure provoke many people to just do their best to screw up the run for those people. I do not, but I know many others, will.

Act as you wish yourself to be acted upon usually works. ^^


Again, not towards anyone in particular, just a general thought.

[Raksha]

You obviously had a lot of bad luck with having such people around. It really is not like that all the time, and it most certainly should not mean you, or anyone else should be against them 'soloers'.

My LS must have super bad luck then, because that happens EVERY TIME we do 1, 2 or 3.

We've basically just resorted to only doing 7 and being locked out for 30 minutes between runs.

[Dragoy]

My LS must have super bad luck then, because that happens EVERY TIME we do 1, 2 or 3.

We've basically just resorted to only doing 7 and being locked out for 30 minutes between runs.

Just to get a better image: How many people usually are there when you go?
And have you tried to scourge another time-slot for it?
What I mean to say is, are there always so and so many people around there on your server? Eventually the few ones should have their goal satisfied, so either new ones must appear or... it's just popular'ish there. :s

But like I said, I really have not checked in after the recent server-merge, and this is something that is highly depending on the server-population. So it can be very different for us on different servers.

[katz]

Didnt say i didnt understand why they didnt like me there. Just they stare at you for basically playing your own game in zone that allows it. I got plenty of kills in solo maybe not the boss but I was attacking it so why couldnt I get the drops from it. Not my fault they didnt ask me to join them when I asked to join their party. If you ask and they turn you down then they are basically telling you they dont want you to play by their rules.

[Alhanelem]

The thing is, coin collecting can be done solo, while most of the NMs can't be (A MNK with a pocket WHM is not "solo."). Also, some of the NMs are in heavy competition and it can take longer than you expect to get all those items.
Also WoE weapon stage 2 and 3 are extremely simple and more or less fast, while the abyssea NMs will take some time due to needing to collect pop items.

@ above post: If you're contributing to the fight, I disagree with any notion that you shouldn't be entitled to lot. Now, there are people who stand there and do nothing then lot on stuff. But most people helped. And beating WoE#2 doesn't require rocket science, so the notion of throwing people off their strategy is nonsense unless you're being a Leeroy Jenkins.

[Sparthos]

Unless your server has flux7 open, WoE is a waste of time for 30 coins.

The only thing that is going to fix the zone is making coins extremely common, removing the pointless 30min lockdown and having some way of trading in useless bags (Ruin hi) for another through an NPC.