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    Player Tetsujin's Avatar
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    Automaton Oil Improvements

    Just a few suggestions:
    - A +3 Oil is a little overdue. Or perhaps a new named oil with a different synth altogether (to alleviate the HQ problem.) Automaton Lubricant maybe?

    - The standard oils should also replenish a certain percentage of MP alongside HP. A small amount.

    - On that note, perhaps lower the repair recast timer to 2 minutes. The single minute could make all the difference for things like Repair-based erase and spamming oils.

    - Perhaps create new synths for alternate oils. This will improve the functionality of Repair and encourage more PUPs to take advantage of this Job Ability. This wouldn't be a new job ability, simply different oils.

    Just some examples:
    "Automat. Lubricant" --> essentially the +3 oil, but in a different category, with it's own +1 and maybe +2 at or above level 75.

    "Automat. Coolant - Removes burden overtime from the automaton."
    Ingredients: Distilled Water, Plasma Oil, Ice Cluster, Polyflan Paper.

    "Puppet Petrol - Increases Maneuver Duration (maybe also Burden for fairness)"


    Please feel free to discuss.
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    all decent ideas! and speaking as a beast as well, look how much Eta heals and compare that to what oil +2 does; assuming no augmentation the comparison isn't even remotely proportional, we do need something that keeps pace with end-game numbers, both auto's base HP and all the damage flying around.
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    Well, for some reason now that we got adjustments we won't get more adjustments for minimum 6 months
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    I always thought the oils for pup were a little underpowered but when you take into account the regen/refresh ablilites we can add with attachments that seems to make up for what repair oils lack. On the other hand, I do think that we are overdue for at least a post 75 version of oil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackastheripper View Post
    I always thought the oils for pup were a little underpowered but when you take into account the regen/refresh ablilites we can add with attachments that seems to make up for what repair oils lack. On the other hand, I do think that we are overdue for at least a post 75 version of oil.
    I hate having to throw up Light Maneuvers for Regens to kick in with the ValorEdge Frame, It overrides Cannibal Blade. =\
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miera View Post
    I hate having to throw up Light Maneuvers for Regens to kick in with the ValorEdge Frame, It overrides Cannibal Blade. =\
    the problem is not the light for regen but the dark for cannibal...that ws trigger is so messed up...
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    Player Jackastheripper's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miera View Post
    I hate having to throw up Light Maneuvers for Regens to kick in with the ValorEdge Frame, It overrides Cannibal Blade. =\
    Yeah, but like every other job in the game, we have to make choices about what we do. Do we wanna keep our auto alive or just let it tear off faces with dd. Balance is the key.
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    Totally agree with Jackastheripper. The job is about balance, patience, and timing.
    Not saying it's perfect either. I'll admit, my burden removal suggestion is a bit much to ask for, considering that overload is one of the few things that keep PUPs in check and fair.

    Still, I wanted to make the suggestion, see how the community handled it. For sure, the next tier of oils is in order.
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    Player Jackastheripper's Avatar
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    It's a good suggestion don't get me wrong! I agree 100% that it is about time we get some upgraded oils. With all the pet foods out there I don't think some enhancement oils and most definitely at least a high level repair oil is to much to ask.
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    make the burden removal one on par with the Vile Elixir +, or as uncommon to craft as that thing to lower Miasma in Attowah, you'll maybe buy it to handle a tough battlefield, otherwise you won't bother. Granted, I'd prolly just 2hr...
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