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    /popcorn

    Love this thread, I can see a lot of future liberal lawyers coming out from this thread.

    You know, the kind that would try to break a contract because it was "unfair" for them even though the other side did their part of the bargain.

    Although, I don't condone Futchy's methodology in the deal. It was a bad deal on itself, and the OP should have seen it as a bad deal. Since he didn't, he should be the one to pay the price for a service of a bad deal, learn from his mistake, and move on. Futchy can't survive on bad deals alone, so this one time was probably a lucky break for him.

    My advice to the OP? Life is hard, you better learn that you can't leech off of other's "kindness" because in the end, only one person counts in this world, and that is yourself (message to everyone, yourself means that person who is reading this post, not the person this post was intended for).
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    Linh just come clean with the full story if you want sympathy.

    He brought 2 characters to the BCNM. He had agreed to give up one of his shanks in exchange for being able to lot the tongue when it dropped. After Pewpew's run, which went smoothly, he went and they failed because Pewpew left the bcnm at 10% thinking they would be fine to finish without him. When Linh was asking if he had to give up his other shank to lot the tongue, the Leader rushed into the next bcnm before answering him. At this point most of us would be upset if not suspicious. So yeah he didn't want to have to give up his other shank if the tongue didn't drop since Pewpew had caused them to fail Linh's first run. IDK if Pewpew did that on purpose, but he was in Jueno selling King Behemoth runs the next day so I wouldn't put it past him to try and monopolize the market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    Love this thread, I can see a lot of future liberal lawyers coming out from this thread.
    My thoughts exactly lol. The mindset is completely bonkers to me. It's as if he can't grasp the basic concept of a (verbal) contract or their mechanics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    My thoughts exactly lol. The mindset is completely bonkers to me. It's as if he can't grasp the basic concept of a (verbal) contract or their mechanics.
    That requires a course of basic Business Law to know though. Most people wouldn't understand that, and they are the ones who vote lawyers into Congress and "other places."

    Then those lawyers make it so other lawyers can change the system into a "fair" system which undermines the whole contractual concept to make it so "little people" can be "protected" from "big bad corporations" which turns out that the people who take advantage of these new rules are the lawyers and their "clients."

    But thats beyond the point.

    The point being: Know what you are getting into, because you can't expect anyone to back out of a contract agreement after they fulfilled their part of the agreement. Thats like doing work for nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    /popcorn

    Love this thread, I can see a lot of future liberal lawyers coming out from this thread.

    You know, the kind that would try to break a contract because it was "unfair" for them even though the other side did their part of the bargain.
    Right, because Republicans never break contracts... like, say, with teacher's unions for example.

    Oh wait.




    Let's keep the politics out of this, alright?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volkai View Post
    Right, because Republicans never break contracts... like, say, with teacher's unions for example.

    Oh wait.




    Let's keep the politics out of this, alright?
    Politicians are corrupt period. There are not left/right wing honesty there. Thats why I don't trust any politicians or anyone who freely associate themselves with a political party, because that limits their thinking to one viewpoint.

    But yeah, lets keep the politics out of this.
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    I fail to see the reason for this thread. These kinds of stories are stupid and baseless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarly View Post
    I fail to see the reason for this thread. These kinds of stories are stupid and baseless.
    To learn who does or does not follow Wil Wheaton's Law.
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    The deal was

    "I'll give you the chance to lot on the Tongue if it drops, in return I get your shank."

    Pewpeww meant
    "I'll give you the (chance to lot on the Tongue if it drops), in return I get your shank."
    wherein the shank is forfeit either way.

    The OP thought he was agreeing to

    "I'll give you the chance to (lot on the Tongue if it drops), in return I get your shank."
    wherein the tongue would need to drop to for the trade.

    Same word order, different interpretations, both valid. Clarify next time.

    It should have been "The first tongue that drops on our orbs is yours, but we get your shank whether or not it drops."
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    Last edited by Khiinroye; 05-19-2011 at 04:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blowfin View Post
    Quit being such an asswipe. I'm sure plenty of people here would have warped out at the realisation they were about to get screwed out of their orb, probably yourself included. We can just hope he's learnt and never has to "screw over" a known jerkwad again. You keep defending a leader who appears to have changed the rules on the fly an didn't bother to clarify what he wanted before they left jeuno. You know why people like Rog think the OP is wrong? They enjoy screwing people over who they see as more stupid than themselves.

    Sure he might not have made the greatest deal, but I don't think that was intentional to be honest, at least he had the smarts to warp out before he got totally burnt.

    My 2 cents.



    Did you not read the part about the deal being clarified by the leader and being quite different from the original one?
    I did read. I read that "The shank was part of the original deal, yes." Which tells me he knew. and I also read where he asked that question. The timing of that question was self serving. It came at a point when the tongue hadn't dropped yet and he then tries to change the deal because of it.

    He was given a chance to lot on the tongue if it dropped in exchange for the shank. We all know the drop rates of BB items in a KSNM are low to begin with. So he had to have known that there was also the chance it would not have dropped at all before going in.

    I'm sorry Blowfin but this is what I have read.
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