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    I feel like both sides were conning here. Linh talks like s/he understood the con, and was planning to warp out period if they didn't get a tongue in their inventory on the first two kills and was told no to keeping the shank. Come time for Linhs orb and no tongue yet, they ask to keep their shank out of "common courtesy", and was told no. And so they warped out. Was this pew character trying to rob someone of their shank? Sure. Was Linh right to prevent it? Sure. Was Linh wrong for trying to do their own "confidence man tactic" ? Yeeeeeeep. Sorry Linh, but the fact that you were trying to confirm the deal or change it or whatever when it was your time to pop says a lot. It says you knew something was up. I don't think you were as dumb about it as you lead on. It sounds like you agreed to give up your shank for a better chance to get a tongue if it dropped, and when it didn't drop you were begging to keep your shank so you don't leave empty handed. And now you make this thread complaining about how the others weren't being courteous by letting you keep your orb.

    That's how I see this. And until you provide us with the whole story or screenshots that probably don't exist, I have no choice but to stick to this mindset. He tried to con you. It didn't work. You tried to con him back by playing dumb. It didn't work. Life goes on. Also I just want to point out that it is insulting to relate con men with some of the things you did. Con men are con men. All races. All religions. All everything. You should be grateful Pewwhateverhisnameis was straight up with you when you asked. That was courteous enough, con man or not. He could have lied to your face and said sure, you can keep it.

    If you were as oblivious as you lead on, you never would have asked them about your shank. You would have used your orb due to lack of wisdom and maybe gotten screwed out of a shank. So really, want to tell us another story? 'cause I promise you right now if you come out and tell the truth we'll think more highly of you regardless we lead that on or not in following replies. If by some miracle your story is 100% true and you are innocent of any wrong doing then you're just going to have to live with some people thinking what they're going to think. Learn from your mistake of making this thread and move on. And for the love of God, the cliche is "con man."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vold View Post
    ...If you were as oblivious as you lead on, you never would have asked them about your shank...
    I asked them about my shank, because when it was time to /random for the second person to go, I asked if I could just simply go last and let Pewpeww's friend go 2nd, because if it didn't drop the Tongue still, I would want to keep my Shank (unless my orb dropped a Tongue) This was when he mentioned that this wasn't the deal we made and he doesn't play that way. When I was about to ask if this means I can lot their Shank on their 3rd run (assuming I won the /random and went 2nd) if the Tongue still had not dropped then, he DCed.

    I alt tabbed out to surf the net while waiting for him to come back. Minutes later I see they're already in without me and he hasn't said anything. I said "wb", and he said "I wasn't away."

    So I thought to myself, "aren't you just supposed to say "ty", even if that wasn't the case? Ya know, like conversations at a retail store. Cashier says how are you? You reply fine ty, even if you really aren't fine."

    So the 2nd run ended, and now it was time for my orb. Since he hasn't said anything besides the "I wasn't away." during the 2nd run, this was when I asked the question about the Shank again. and where he "clarified" it.

    And hey wb Zy. Thought the story ended and you were walkin away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linh View Post
    I asked them about my shank, because when it was time to /random for the second person to go, I asked if I could just simply go last and let Pewpeww's friend go 2nd, because if it didn't drop the Tongue still, I would want to keep my Shank (unless my orb dropped a Tongue) This was when he mentioned that this wasn't the deal we made and he doesn't play that way. When I was about to ask if this means I can lot their Shank on their 3rd run (assuming I won the /random and went 2nd) if the Tongue still had not dropped then, he DCed.

    I alt tabbed out to surf the net while waiting for him to come back. Minutes later I see they're already in without me and he hasn't said anything. I said "wb", and he said "I wasn't away."

    So I thought to myself, "aren't you just supposed to say "ty", even if that wasn't the case? Ya know, like conversations at a retail store. Cashier says how are you? You reply fine ty, even if you really aren't fine."

    So the 2nd run ended, and now it was time for my orb. Since he hasn't said anything besides the "I wasn't away." during the 2nd run, this was when I asked the question about the Shank again. and where he "clarified" it.
    So you knew before you even randomed for your turn that the deal you agreed to was a bad deal and you tried to change it. The problem is, you did agree to the original deal...you didn't need clarifications because you tried to change it before your orb...therefore you were still in the wrong about dodging the deal that you agreed to.

    I don't know, why did you make this thread anyway? To teach people not to make bad deals? I think you misunderstand the meaning of 'common courtesy'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HFX7686 View Post
    So you knew before you even randomed for your turn that the deal you agreed to was a bad deal and you tried to change it.
    No, the deal I thought I agreed to was giving my shank and in return obtaining the BB item.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linh View Post
    No, the deal I thought I agreed to was giving my shank and in return obtaining the BB item.
    Hey, guess what? If you speak fluent english, people are going to expect you to understand words that all 4 year olds understand. If you do not, then you should just suck it up, and give up the item you promised to give up, if only as payment for teaching you such a valuable piece of vocabulary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rog View Post
    Hey, guess what? If you speak fluent english, people are going to expect you to understand words that all 4 year olds understand. If you do not, then you should just suck it up, and give up the item you promised to give up, if only as payment for teaching you such a valuable piece of vocabulary.
    However, perfectly reasonable English-speaking person could interpret the arrangement as being "I get your shank If the tongue drops". English is not a simple language where every piece of dialogue is always perfectly clear, there are nuance to language that is often lost over written media. Can you honestly say you have never read a post and been unable to tell whether the post was sarcastic? Besides if you had read my post you'd see that Pewpew screwed himself out of a shank and Linh out of an orb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arlynne View Post
    However, perfectly reasonable English-speaking person could interpret the arrangement as being "I get your shank If the tongue drops". English is not a simple language where every piece of dialogue is always perfectly clear, there are nuance to language that is often lost over written media. Can you honestly say you have never read a post and been unable to tell whether the post was sarcastic? Besides if you had read my post you'd see that Pewpew screwed himself out of a shank and Linh out of an orb.
    I have never read the word "chance" and took it to mean anything else, no.
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