Common Courtesy

[Zyeriis]

Ahh I see ... 5 posts down. Fair enough. I still cheer for anyone who pulls a number on Futchy though. >.>

That...I won't argue with ^^;

[Glamdring]

How much should it matter in this game?

A player named Pewpeww shouted for a YOYD "Horns of War". After I clarified that the Behemoth Tongue still drops in Horns of War per this post:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...0514#post80514

He sent me a tell saying that he'll give me a chance to lot BB item on both his and his LS-mate's orb if it dropped.

When it was my turn (3rd/last) the Tongue still had not dropped. I asked if I still get to keep my shank if my orb didn't drop Tongue. He said that wasn't part of the deal I made, that it wasn't his fault I misinterpret the deal.

"The deal was not for the BB item itself, but the chance for you to lot it if it drops on our orb. Even if it doesn't drop on your orb, we still get your shank. You misinterpret the deal, not our fault."

Is this what you call a "Confidence Man Tactic"? Cuz through the "fine print/contract" he is right, but not through the "General Perception" or "Common Courtesy" way.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but you did only ask about the BB item. It is a general rule of YOYD that only stuff on your orb is yours. If you are given a chance at Items off someone else's orb it will ONLY be the specified item. Offerring the BB item lot WAS common courtesy, but the rest of it...? No, that's people's compensation for using seals and time to KS99 with you.

[Greatguardian]

Ahh I see ... 5 posts down. Fair enough. I still cheer for anyone who pulls a number on Futchy though. >.>

Scammers can still get scammed. The OP didn't even know it was Futchy. While I honestly don't care one bit either way, it's very clearly the OP who was in the wrong. It's sad, really.

Protip for the OP: Don't wantonly accept deals that you don't like in the hopes that you'll get what you want for free. In this case, you made a deal, completed two runs, and then bailed on the rest of your group. You basically just cost them a shank. Is said shank worth all that much, when they didn't have to kill your KS99 Behe? Not really. But that doesn't make what you did acceptable.

Be upfront. Be clear. Be consistent. If you have questions or misunderstandings, it is your responsibility to clear them up before you even leave town. If you don't like the arrangements, don't go with that group. That's all there is to it.

[Heady]

Its probably already been said, but im not reading all this. Learn a lesson, make your own groups or only bring friends to BC/Orb battles. I learned a long time ago pug's suck for orb battles. At least 70% I joined turned into drama fests, ninja looting a few times, or just plain fail cause some people can't function w/o you telling them when to stun,nuke,ws,curebomb etc..

[Linh]

I had asked the question because it was during the second run he mentioned this.

We were about to /random to see who wouid go next, I asked to go last in case Tongue didn't drop. He then mentions that wasn't the deal. Before I get to ask if this means I get to lot the shank on the 3rd/their orb (if I had went second) in case NO Tongues dropped at all he DCed. He came back, his friend immediately traded orb, we went in fought, won, then I asked again.

This was when he absolutely clarified that I don't get to keep my shank at all and he will warp out but his friend was free to stay and help me out since he wasn't him.

[Romanova]

It's Futchy. If the OP had gotten a Behemoth Tongue and Warped justice would have been served.

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/804...eww-on-Valefor

Requoting this incase people miss it. Idk if the OP is right or wrong but at this point it's the FFXI's community to keep track of this thread, learn who futchy is, and if you don't trust him after reading it, don't join in his events. And tell others.

[rog]

Basically what i am getting from this is that linh is even worse than futchy, and i should avoid lin at all costs, whereas futchy can at least keep a deal apparently (better than linh anyway).

[Greatguardian]

Linh can't seem to keep their story straight at all.

Either way, pro-freaking-tip: Don't even leave town unless you know exactly what is happening and who is lotting what.

[Ordain]

Why do I after reading all of this and then the last post by Linh feel like A) The entire story changed or B) We never were actually given the correct insight into the issue to begin with...?

[Linh]

It's Futchy. If the OP had gotten a Behemoth Tongue and Warped justice would have been served.

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/804...eww-on-Valefor

Thx. Goes to show he's been doing shady stuff even from before.