Common Courtesy

[rog]

That would actually depend on the drop rates of BCNM Vs King Behemoth. So that's up in the air.

But the fact remains that it was a YOYD run. And when it was my turn I was expected to give away my only consolation chance at another Tongue regardless of whether or not Tongue dropped due to taking advantage of my good hearted nature to believe in ppl i dont know ><

No, you were expected to turn it over, because you agreed to.

Brb, gonna go buy a lottery ticket. Except i am not going to pay for it until after i win. If i lose, then there is no way i am going to pay for it!

[Linh]

No, you were expected to turn it over, because you agreed to.

Brb, gonna go buy a lottery ticket. Except i am not going to pay for it until after i win. If i lose, then there is no way i am going to pay for it!

This was not what I agreed to. My faith in them was that they were gonna do it the common courtesy way. I in no way expected to just hand over my consolation chance at getting a Tongue when it was *my* orb if I had received no Tongue.

It was a YOYD run. Your Orb Your Drop. Which they tried to pull one on me with the Confidence Man tactic. Different from a government run lottery.

[Arcon]

This was not what I agreed to. My faith in them was that they were gonna do it the common courtesy way. I in no way expected to just hand over my consolation chance at getting a Tongue when it was *my* orb if I had received no Tongue.

It was a YOYD run. Your Orb Your Drop. Which they tried to pull one on me with the Confidence Man tactic. Different from a government run lottery.

As I said before, no one pulled anything. There was no subtext in their deal, no clause you skimmed over and missed, no fine print that screws you over. It's not even a bad deal, not at all. You got a chance at three tongues, they helped you with the fight. You simply expected a safety net that wasn't there, that they had no responsibility to hold up, neither contractually, nor morally. They didn't force you into this, they didn't coerce you into this, they offered you a simple deal, they didn't say "you'll get the tongue in return for the shank", they said "you lot this, we lot that" and you agreed to that (it isn't a bad deal anyway if you just want a Behemoth Tongue).

I try to be as fair as I can, always, and I would do something like that too. It's not to screw anyone over, it's just a normal deal, I don't even understand how you can take it the wrong way. You made a mistake, no one played you, you expected something unrealistic and then backed out, which means now you got two shots at the tongue for absolutely nothing in return.

[Linh]

they helped you with the fight.

It was a YOYD shout in Port Jeno. We all helped each other. Not like I jus asked some random d00ds to help me with something I had to do

[rog]

This was not what I agreed to. My faith in them was that they were gonna do it the common courtesy way. I in no way expected to just hand over my consolation chance at getting a Tongue when it was *my* orb if I had received no Tongue.

It was a YOYD run. Your Orb Your Drop. Which they tried to pull one on me with the Confidence Man tactic. Different from a government run lottery.

Yes it is what you agreed to. It is right fucking there in the OP.

He sent me a tell saying that he'll give me a chance to lot BB item on both his and his LS-mate's orb if it dropped.

Stop blaming him because you cannot read.

[Randwolf]

This was not what I agreed to. My faith in them was that they were gonna do it the common courtesy way. I in no way expected to just hand over my consolation chance at getting a Tongue when it was *my* orb if I had received no Tongue.

It was a YOYD run. Your Orb Your Drop. Which they tried to pull one on me with the Confidence Man tactic. Different from a government run lottery.

It seems to me you are here trying to justify your behavior. You did not need a clarification on the terms until it was your orb on the line. The fact that you asked for clarification meant you had this question in the back of your mind. But, it only became relevant when it came time for you to fulfill your end of the bargain. So, either you were the conman or you let your greed overrule your questions until it was time to pay up.

[Trumpy]

ok i keep seeing "chance at shank." isnt that a 100% drop? i thought it was and every bcnm ive done since the change dropped a shank (but no tongue /sigh).

[Firebert_Lakshmi]

Brb, gonna go buy a lottery ticket. Except i am not going to pay for it until after i win. If i lose, then there is no way i am going to pay for it!

A better analogy would be giving the cashier the money for a ticket, but never receiving a ticket in return, winning or losing.

[rog]

A better analogy would be giving the cashier the money for a ticket, but never receiving a ticket in return, winning or losing.

No, i want to be the one who takes advantage, like the OP.

[Linh]

I'm a bit unclear what the original deal was. Was the Behemoth Shank part of the original deal or not?

Linh, before you set out from Jeuno to the BCNM did you or did you not agree to allow this Pewpeww person to have the Behemoth Shank on your orb in exchange for being able to lot on the Behemoth Tongue on all orbs?

Beastly Shank was part of the original deal yes. I was to be allowed to lot the BB item if it dropped on any orb (instead of only lotting it on my orb, since it is a YOYD) in return for giving up the Beastly Shank from my orb.

Following Pewpeww's logic, I was not even guaranteed the Tongue EVEN IF IT DROPS. Cuz by that logic, I'm only allowed to lot it right? Not win it.

EDIT: To answer your second question, no. It wasn't until we were at Ronfaure and after I supposedly convinced Pewpeww that Behemoth Tongue still dropped from KS99 (cuz he said it didn't anymore) that he sent me this /tell with the agreement.