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    Everyone else discussing this with you is corrrect. In this situation you were the one in the wrong not the group you went with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gokku View Post
    3. Didnt have friends to do the orb with them and then keep the behemoth pop item and pop it your self
    Not that you even need friends, as the bcnm is soloable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linh View Post
    That would actually depend on the drop rates of BCNM Vs King Behemoth. So that's up in the air.

    But the fact remains that it was a YOYD run. And when it was my turn I was expected to give away my only consolation chance at another Tongue regardless of whether or not Tongue dropped due to taking advantage of my good hearted nature to believe in ppl i dont know ><
    No, you were expected to turn it over, because you agreed to.

    Brb, gonna go buy a lottery ticket. Except i am not going to pay for it until after i win. If i lose, then there is no way i am going to pay for it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rog View Post
    No, you were expected to turn it over, because you agreed to.

    Brb, gonna go buy a lottery ticket. Except i am not going to pay for it until after i win. If i lose, then there is no way i am going to pay for it!
    This was not what I agreed to. My faith in them was that they were gonna do it the common courtesy way. I in no way expected to just hand over my consolation chance at getting a Tongue when it was *my* orb if I had received no Tongue.

    It was a YOYD run. Your Orb Your Drop. Which they tried to pull one on me with the Confidence Man tactic. Different from a government run lottery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linh View Post
    This was not what I agreed to. My faith in them was that they were gonna do it the common courtesy way. I in no way expected to just hand over my consolation chance at getting a Tongue when it was *my* orb if I had received no Tongue.

    It was a YOYD run. Your Orb Your Drop. Which they tried to pull one on me with the Confidence Man tactic. Different from a government run lottery.
    As I said before, no one pulled anything. There was no subtext in their deal, no clause you skimmed over and missed, no fine print that screws you over. It's not even a bad deal, not at all. You got a chance at three tongues, they helped you with the fight. You simply expected a safety net that wasn't there, that they had no responsibility to hold up, neither contractually, nor morally. They didn't force you into this, they didn't coerce you into this, they offered you a simple deal, they didn't say "you'll get the tongue in return for the shank", they said "you lot this, we lot that" and you agreed to that (it isn't a bad deal anyway if you just want a Behemoth Tongue).

    I try to be as fair as I can, always, and I would do something like that too. It's not to screw anyone over, it's just a normal deal, I don't even understand how you can take it the wrong way. You made a mistake, no one played you, you expected something unrealistic and then backed out, which means now you got two shots at the tongue for absolutely nothing in return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    they helped you with the fight.
    It was a YOYD shout in Port Jeno. We all helped each other. Not like I jus asked some random d00ds to help me with something I had to do
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    Everyone else discussing this with you is corrrect. In this situation you were the one in the wrong not the group you went with.
    The leader of the group probably should have given more detail. Certainly if I planned to keep something that came from someone elses orb in a YOYD run i'd make it pretty clear what said item was before commencing.

    Seems like there was an assumption made by the leader of the group really, and maybe our OP here. But it's up to the organizer to not run a complete gong show, not the guests.

    It was a YOYD shout in Port Jeno. We all helped each other. Not like I jus asked some random d00ds to help me with something I had to do
    No, you were helping them really if they were shouting.
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    If you don't like the deal, you're free to walk away even if it's "your turn." Deals have two sides, so he misinterpreted it just as much as you did. If he managed to peer pressure you into a deal that you didn't want, my condolences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linh View Post
    This was not what I agreed to. My faith in them was that they were gonna do it the common courtesy way. I in no way expected to just hand over my consolation chance at getting a Tongue when it was *my* orb if I had received no Tongue.

    It was a YOYD run. Your Orb Your Drop. Which they tried to pull one on me with the Confidence Man tactic. Different from a government run lottery.
    Yes it is what you agreed to. It is right fucking there in the OP.
    He sent me a tell saying that he'll give me a chance to lot BB item on both his and his LS-mate's orb if it dropped.
    Stop blaming him because you cannot read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linh View Post
    This was not what I agreed to. My faith in them was that they were gonna do it the common courtesy way. I in no way expected to just hand over my consolation chance at getting a Tongue when it was *my* orb if I had received no Tongue.

    It was a YOYD run. Your Orb Your Drop. Which they tried to pull one on me with the Confidence Man tactic. Different from a government run lottery.
    It seems to me you are here trying to justify your behavior. You did not need a clarification on the terms until it was your orb on the line. The fact that you asked for clarification meant you had this question in the back of your mind. But, it only became relevant when it came time for you to fulfill your end of the bargain. So, either you were the conman or you let your greed overrule your questions until it was time to pay up.
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