Common Courtesy

[Zyeriis]

How do I lose everything in a YOYD run ;;

It's not like I live in a perpetual state of some movie where I'm expecting this type of action to be used. It's in retrospect that I see it. Like "hey, doesnt this sound familiar? Like those lawsuits of this or that which you see in random news articles?"

1) Lost nothing, as you backed out because they wouldn't take back the deal just because it was your turn.
2) Them being able to lot the Tongue as well, on their orbs, has nothing to do with you trying to back out of the deal just because it didn't drop on their orbs.
3) You are making assumptions again (and still) that you wouldn't have been able to lot the shank, which was nowhere in the deal you mentioned and you could've said that to counter the fact that they could still lot on the Tongue). The deal only mentioned that everyone would be able to lot the Tongue (and by extension the Shank) if one of them dropped, regardless of orb. It worked both ways, he didn't "con" you, you made a deal, made assumptions, and backed out under false reasoning AFTER the fact that they used their orbs.

[Linh]

1) Lost nothing, as you backed out because they wouldn't take back the deal just because it was your turn.
2) Them being able to lot the Tongue as well, on their orbs, has nothing to do with you trying to back out of the deal just because it didn't drop on their orbs.
3) You are making assumptions again (and still) that you wouldn't have been able to lot the shank, which was nowhere in the deal you mentioned and you could've said that to counter the fact that they could still lot on the Tongue). The deal only mentioned that everyone would be able to lot the Tongue (and by extension the Shank) if one of them dropped, regardless of orb. It worked both ways, he didn't "con" you, you made a deal, made assumptions, and backed out under false reasoning AFTER the fact that they used their orbs.

and again, I said it is a common Confidence Man tactic to "pull a fast one" on someone. I'm pretty sure "Confidence Man Tactic" is not the term correct term, but I can't for the life of me think of the correct one. Ya know, something akin to a Pyramid Scheme...but obviously NOT one. In the same group of "terms".

And if it's so common why did it (almost) work? Cuz I don't like to jus instantly think someone who I've never met before will pull a trick on me that I've heard about in news articles or such to con people. It's in retrospect.

[Zyeriis]

and again, I said it is a common Confidence Man tactic to "pull a fast one" on someone.

And if it's so common why did it (almost) work? Cuz I don't like to jus instantly think someone who I've never met before will pull a trick on me that I've heard about in news articles or such to con people. It's in retrospect.

You do realize that one could make you look like the one who "pulled a fast one" by not using your orb after they used theirs don't you? "You will have a chance to lot the Tongue if it drops on one of our orbs if we get the chance to lot the shank on yours" is pretty clear, if you ask me.

If it had dropped, and you had won the item, you may as well have ran off without using your orb. You ran off because you didn't understand the word "chance" and then tried to "pull a fast one" by asking if they could get rid of the "if we get the chance to lot the shank on your orb" part of the deal, because the part of the deal that you were interested in could no longer occur, and then leaving once they said no (regardless of you being unable to understand the word "chance" in the deal, that has nothing to do with it, even included, your actions/motives are the only ones i can question now).

[Linh]

You do realize that one could make you look like the one who "pulled a fast one" by not using your orb after they used theirs don't you? "You will have a chance to lot the Tongue if it drops on one of our orbs if we get the chance to lot the shank on yours" is pretty clear, if you ask me.

If it had dropped, and you had won the item, you may as well have ran off without using your orb. You ran off because you didn't understand the word "chance" and then tried to "pull a fast one" by asking if they could get rid of the "if we get the chance to lot the shank on your orb" part of the deal, because the part of the deal that you were interested in could no longer occur, and then leaving once they said no (regardless of you being unable to understand the word "chance" in the deal, that has nothing to do with it, even included, your actions/motives are the only ones i can question now).

But that's not what happened.

[rog]

Again, all of that is kaput cuz isn't this going against the nature of common courtesy towards even your fellow man? They were trying to take something from me and in return I received nothing.

No you did not. You received a chance at an item. The actual item was never offered to you, simply the chance for it.

Sorry, but YOU are the one being unreasonable, not them.

[Linh]

No you did not. You received a chance at an item. The actual item was never offered to you, simply the chance for it.

Sorry, but YOU are the one being unreasonable, not them.

No one in their right mind would make this deal unless:

1. They didn't fully understand and were taken advantage of beforehand

2. REALLY didn't wanna fight regular Behemoth and King Behemoth

It's not unreasonable to expect common courtesy from my fellow man by not having this Confidence Man tactic thrown at me

[rog]

No one in their right mind would make this deal unless:

1. They didn't fully understand and were taken advantage of beforehand

2. REALLY didn't wanna fight regular Behemoth and King Behemoth

Actually they would because 4 chances during the ks99 is better than 1 chance of behemoth.

[Zyeriis]

No one in their right mind would make this deal unless:

1. They didn't fully understand and were taken advantage of beforehand

2. REALLY didn't wanna fight regular Behemoth and King Behemoth

It's not unreasonable to expect common courtesy from my fellow man by not having this Confidence Man tactic thrown at me

....what?...

[Gokku]

No one in their right mind would make this deal unless:

1. They didn't fully understand and were taken advantage of beforehand

2. REALLY didn't wanna fight regular Behemoth and King Behemoth

It's not unreasonable to expect common courtesy from my fellow man by not having this Confidence Man tactic thrown at me

3. Didnt have friends to do the orb with them and then keep the behemoth pop item and pop it your self

cuz you know... old contents hard bro! you made a dumb deal and got screwed over for it end of story.

[Linh]

Actually they would because 4 chances during the ks99 is better than 1 chance of behemoth.

That would actually depend on the drop rates of BCNM Vs King Behemoth. So that's up in the air.

But the fact remains that it was a YOYD run. And when it was my turn I was expected to give away my only consolation chance at another Tongue regardless of whether or not Tongue dropped due to taking advantage of my good hearted nature to believe in ppl i dont know ><