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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyeriis View Post
    I don't think your following me here. The shout was YOYD, you asked for something that went against that, and he said yes (this is a concession as it broke the pre-established rule, the very same rule you are arguing that would've prevented you from making the deal in the first place).
    He offered it in the first place by sending me a tell.

    Again, all of that is kaput cuz isn't this going against the nature of common courtesy towards even your fellow man? They were trying to take something from me and in return I received nothing.

    I don't know how else to describe it. A Capitalist Way of Thinking? A Republican Way of Thinking? A Confidence Man tactic?

    I wanted to believe in the good-natured will of people. Not to have words be thrown about and twisted like he did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linh View Post
    He offered it in the first place by sending me a tell.

    Again, all of that is kaput cuz isn't this going against the nature of common courtesy towards even your fellow man? They were trying to take something from me and in return I received nothing.

    I don't know how else to describe it. A Capitalist Way of Thinking? A Republican Way of Thinking? A Confidence Man tactic?

    I wanted to believe in the good-natured will of people. Not to have words be thrown about and twisted like he did.
    Only need to change "you asked for" to "he asked if you wanted " and "he said yes" to "you said yes" in the second sentence I made. Refer to the edit on my previous post at the bottom. He increased your chances at getting the Tongue with this deal while increasing his chances at getting the Shank. Where's the fault exactly? Other than you trying to back out because it was your turn and it hadn't dropped yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyeriis View Post
    Only need to change "you asked for" to "he asked if you wanted " and "he said yes" to "you said yes" in the second sentence I made. Refer to the edit on my previous post at the bottom. He increased your chances at getting the Tongue with this deal while increasing his chances at getting the Shank. Where's the fault exactly? Other than you trying to back out because it was your turn and it hadn't dropped yet?
    Because he wanted to take my Shank under a common tactic to trick naive people leaving me with nothing.

    And of course I'm naive. I'm human just like anyone else with feelings. I don't WANT to believe that someone would take away my second chance at getting a BB item and leave me with no tongue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linh View Post
    Again, all of that is kaput cuz isn't this going against the nature of common courtesy towards even your fellow man? They were trying to take something from me and in return I received nothing.
    No you did not. You received a chance at an item. The actual item was never offered to you, simply the chance for it.

    Sorry, but YOU are the one being unreasonable, not them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rog View Post
    No you did not. You received a chance at an item. The actual item was never offered to you, simply the chance for it.

    Sorry, but YOU are the one being unreasonable, not them.
    No one in their right mind would make this deal unless:

    1. They didn't fully understand and were taken advantage of beforehand

    2. REALLY didn't wanna fight regular Behemoth and King Behemoth

    It's not unreasonable to expect common courtesy from my fellow man by not having this Confidence Man tactic thrown at me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linh View Post
    No one in their right mind would make this deal unless:

    1. They didn't fully understand and were taken advantage of beforehand

    2. REALLY didn't wanna fight regular Behemoth and King Behemoth
    Actually they would because 4 chances during the ks99 is better than 1 chance of behemoth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rog View Post
    Actually they would because 4 chances during the ks99 is better than 1 chance of behemoth.
    That would actually depend on the drop rates of BCNM Vs King Behemoth. So that's up in the air.

    But the fact remains that it was a YOYD run. And when it was my turn I was expected to give away my only consolation chance at another Tongue regardless of whether or not Tongue dropped due to taking advantage of my good hearted nature to believe in ppl i dont know ><
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linh View Post
    That would actually depend on the drop rates of BCNM Vs King Behemoth. So that's up in the air.

    But the fact remains that it was a YOYD run. And when it was my turn I was expected to give away my only consolation chance at another Tongue regardless of whether or not Tongue dropped due to taking advantage of my good hearted nature to believe in ppl i dont know ><
    No, you were expected to turn it over, because you agreed to.

    Brb, gonna go buy a lottery ticket. Except i am not going to pay for it until after i win. If i lose, then there is no way i am going to pay for it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rog View Post
    No, you were expected to turn it over, because you agreed to.

    Brb, gonna go buy a lottery ticket. Except i am not going to pay for it until after i win. If i lose, then there is no way i am going to pay for it!
    This was not what I agreed to. My faith in them was that they were gonna do it the common courtesy way. I in no way expected to just hand over my consolation chance at getting a Tongue when it was *my* orb if I had received no Tongue.

    It was a YOYD run. Your Orb Your Drop. Which they tried to pull one on me with the Confidence Man tactic. Different from a government run lottery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rog View Post

    Brb, gonna go buy a lottery ticket. Except i am not going to pay for it until after i win. If i lose, then there is no way i am going to pay for it!
    A better analogy would be giving the cashier the money for a ticket, but never receiving a ticket in return, winning or losing.
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