Common Courtesy

[Linh]

No, that's the deal you accepted straight up.

Not what I accepted straight up. From what you stated, this was all Confidence Man tactic. period.

[blowfin]

1) Pewpeww did not know Behe Tongue dropped from KS99, and sets up the run as YOYD.
1a) Pewpeww accepts the deal thinking he's getting a free shot at a HQ pop item
2) Linh gets to Ronfaure and convinces Pewpeww that Behe Tongue drops from KS99
3) Pewpeww then proposes the deal to allow Linh to lot Tongue on all orbs in exchange for his Pop
4) Linh agrees to this proposal.
5) The first two KS99 are fought and won
6) Linh pulls back on the original agreement and warps.

More like the above. Both parties are at fault really. I just don't think you need to go quite so far with vilifying the OP to be perfectly honest.

Except that's exactly what I said. If they're both free lotting the tongue, he would just free lot his shank. If he's solo lotting the tongue, they're solo lotting his shank. I never said he would be free lotting the tongue and then not lotting his own shank. That's just your misinterpretation.

Needed more clarity really. You implied that it would be fine for the other members to lot on the same tongue too.

[blowfin]

If they're both free lotting the tongue, he would just free lot his shank. If he's solo lotting the tongue, they're solo lotting his shank. I never said he would be free lotting the tongue and then not lotting his own shank.

And yes, you did.

Yes. You're already lotting on someone else's orb. That doesn't guarantee you a win on the lot.

[Arlynne]

The point I am getting out of this is that there is no way Pewpew can lose out on this deal. The reasonable thing would be to let the op get his shank if he didn't get a tongue and then get together to do the king behemoth fight. He already got his two shanks with OPs help, he could just let the op keep his shanks to preserve his chance to get to get the tongue.

[Zyeriis]

The point I am getting out of this is that there is no way Pewpew can lose out on this deal. The reasonable thing would be to let the op get his shank if he didn't get a tongue and then get together to do the king behemoth fight. He already got his two shanks with OPs help, he could just let the op keep his shanks to preserve his chance to get to get the tongue.

Why the hell is this thread still going? It shoudl've been over like 7 pages ago.
The leader of the run increased his chances at getting the Tongue, end of story. The OP didn't actually care about the shank, otherwise he wouldn't have agreed to the deal. It wasn't until his turn came up that he tried to make a big deal out of things because the Tongue hadn't dropped. Who the person was? Irrelevant. Whether or not the OP fully understood the deal? Irrelevant, he should'n't have agreed to the deal if he wasn't sure (Which is apparent when he tried to change the deal because it was his turn).

Other guy got scammed, not the OP. It's just that no one lost anything.

End.
Of.
Story.

[Linh]

Why the hell is this thread still going? It shoudl've been over like 7 pages ago.
The leader of the run increased his chances at getting the Tongue, end of story. The OP didn't actually care about the shank, otherwise he wouldn't have agreed to the deal. It wasn't until his turn came up that he tried to make a big deal out of things because the Tongue hadn't dropped. Who the person was? Irrelevant. Whether or not the OP fully understood the deal? Irrelevant, he should'n't have agreed to the deal if he wasn't sure (Which is apparent when he tried to change the deal because it was his turn).

Other guy got scammed, not the OP. It's just that no one lost anything.

End.
Of.
Story.

It was a confidence man tactic. Due to all this convuluted wording, even if the Tongue didn't drop I wasn't guaranteed to win the lot at all!

That is the real end of story. Keeping your fellow man down and treating him like crap and scamming him instead.

[Zyeriis]

It was a confidence man tactic. Due to all this convuluted wording, even if the Tongue didn't drop I wasn't guaranteed to win the lot at all!

That is the real end of story. Keeping your fellow man down and treating him like crap and scamming him instead.

Translation: "Words are hard, I don't understand the concept of increased chance, if anyone else can lot, that means I'm 100% not going to get the item because the game is specifically coded to not allow me to win lots. *Jibberish* Confidence Man tactics *More jibberish* FIGHT THE POWA! *extra jibberish*

^ Inflammatory? Maybe but, this is getting old. You think saying "confidence man tactics!" enough will make it true?

[Linh]

Translation: "Words are hard, I don't understand the concept of increased chance, if anyone else can lot, that means I'm 100% not going to get the item because the game is specifically coded to not allow me to win lots. *Jibberish* Confidence Man tactics *More jibberish* FIGHT THE POWA! *extra jibberish*

^ Inflammatory? Maybe but, this is getting old. You think saying "confidence man tactics!" enough will make it true?

Because that's exactly what it is. People trying to put their fellow man like me down.

And if you truly wanted this thread to be over, you wouldn't still be here arguing about it, since apparently it was already "End. Of. Story." for you.

[blowfin]

Not what I accepted straight up. From what you stated, this was all Confidence Man tactic. period.

So what changed, you expected to be able to lot on the shank too, and then you were told you weren't able to?

[Linh]

So what changed, you expected to be able to lot on the shank too, and then you were told you weren't able to?

I expected to be able to keep my shank *if no Behemoth Tongue dropped*.