Common Courtesy

[rog]

Why do I after reading all of this and then the last post by Linh feel like A) The entire story changed or B) We never were actually given the correct insight into the issue to begin with...?

Nah, everything was in the OP.

1) linh agreed to give his shank to futchy in exchange for a chance to lot the tongue if it drops on anyone's orb.
2) the tongue does not drop on their orbs.
3) linh runs off refusing to pay for the chances he agreed to pay for.

[blowfin]

Either way, pro-freaking-tip: Don't even leave town unless you know exactly what is happening and who is lotting what.

As I've said in this thread earlier, it's up to the organizer of the group to make sure people are clear on who lots what before they leave. If you want to maintain any sort of decent reputation.

I also love it how you're all trying to defend a proven scumbag.

[Greatguardian]

As I've said in this thread earlier, it's up to the organizer of the group to make sure people are clear on who lots what before they leave. If you want to maintain any sort of decent reputation.

While true in an ideal situation, the fact of the matter is that (if you're dealing in pickups at all) more often than not you're just going to get people who don't know how to read. Both parties need to be responsible. The leader is responsible for being clear, concise, and making sure to lay things out where everyone can see it before the run starts. By the same token, members who don't pay attention, missed something, or who are simply not clear on something are responsible for asking for clarification before they start wandering off into something they're not sure about.

Edit: Futchy is scum. The OP is still wrong. There's no double standard about it.

[blowfin]

The leader is responsible for being clear, concise, and making sure to lay things out where everyone can see it before the run starts. By the same token, members who don't pay attention, missed something, or who are simply not clear on something are responsible for asking for clarification before they start wandering off into something they're not sure about.

Well, it seems like the finer points here were a bit of a grey area.

Would have been quite simple:
- In exchange for lotting your BB item we get to keep the HQ pop if it drops on your orb.
(and OP if that did happen then you're clearly in the wrong, first thing you do when someone offers you a deal like that is drop party)

Basically you got offered garbage items that probably would have gone to the floor in exchange for the HQ pop if it dropped on your orb.

Get the feeling that wasn't outlined too well though. To who's advantage?

[Greatguardian]

Well, it seems like the finer points here were a bit of a grey area.

Would have been quite simple:
- In exchange for lotting your BB item we get to keep the HQ pop if it drops on your orb.

Get the feeling that wasn't outlined too well though. To who's advantage?

Fair enough~. Though neither of them really walked away with anything extraordinary either way.

[HFX7686]

I'm a bit unclear what the original deal was. Was the Behemoth Shank part of the original deal or not?

Linh, before you set out from Jeuno to the BCNM did you or did you not agree to allow this Pewpeww person to have the Behemoth Shank on your orb in exchange for being able to lot on the Behemoth Tongue on all orbs?

[Firebert_Lakshmi]

Here's how I'm interpreting this. In the original post, the tell said the TC would have a chance to lot on the tongue in exchange for the the shank. No tongue, no chance to lot. Therefore I side with TC.

I've seen similar deals set up with Royale Ramble back in the day. Members would trade their ingot to lot a weapon that they wanted.

[Firebert_Lakshmi]

Brb, gonna go buy a lottery ticket. Except i am not going to pay for it until after i win. If i lose, then there is no way i am going to pay for it!

A better analogy would be giving the cashier the money for a ticket, but never receiving a ticket in return, winning or losing.

[rog]

A better analogy would be giving the cashier the money for a ticket, but never receiving a ticket in return, winning or losing.

No, i want to be the one who takes advantage, like the OP.

[Linh]

I'm a bit unclear what the original deal was. Was the Behemoth Shank part of the original deal or not?

Linh, before you set out from Jeuno to the BCNM did you or did you not agree to allow this Pewpeww person to have the Behemoth Shank on your orb in exchange for being able to lot on the Behemoth Tongue on all orbs?

Beastly Shank was part of the original deal yes. I was to be allowed to lot the BB item if it dropped on any orb (instead of only lotting it on my orb, since it is a YOYD) in return for giving up the Beastly Shank from my orb.

Following Pewpeww's logic, I was not even guaranteed the Tongue EVEN IF IT DROPS. Cuz by that logic, I'm only allowed to lot it right? Not win it.

EDIT: To answer your second question, no. It wasn't until we were at Ronfaure and after I supposedly convinced Pewpeww that Behemoth Tongue still dropped from KS99 (cuz he said it didn't anymore) that he sent me this /tell with the agreement.