Common Courtesy

[rog]

Haha. I'm pretty positive his eyes would have lit right up when the OP agreed to the deal.

Free shank! Hell yeah! Of course I agree. Christmas has come early, and all I have to do is give the guy the chance to lot a drop that's useless to me.

Maybe it should be re-phrased though. While he might not have intended to rip off the OP, he would have been more than happy to relieve him of his shank with little or nothing to show for it. How you can rationalise doing that and effectively wasting someone's orb if tongue doesn't drop, I'll never know.

Just because he did not have to give anything up (that he cared about) does not the OP did not get anything. It was a great deal for futchy, and a mediocre deal for the OP (but not really terrible).

Regardless, the OP agreed to give it up, and then refused when it was time to pay for the chances he already got.

[blowfin]

Regardless, the OP agreed to give it up, and then refused when it was time to pay for the chances he already got.

Did he agree to give it up though? I thought the crux of the issue at the moment was the deal wasn't properly understood by both parties (and if you don't think it is you might need to review the last few pages). How on earth are you backing out of a deal if you weren't aware you were in that deal in the first place?

I'd like to hear something else other than the OP being called a liar and a cheat. If you can't muster that then don't bother.

P.S. It was a terrible deal for the OP whichever way you look at it. Until he warped out.

[rog]

Did he agree to give it up though? I thought the crux of the issue at the moment was the deal wasn't properly understood by both parties (and if you don't think it is you might need to review the last few pages). How on earth are you backing out of a deal if you weren't aware you were in that deal in the first place?

I'd like to hear something else other than the OP being called a liar and a cheat. If you can't muster that then don't bother.

P.S. It was a terrible deal for the OP whichever way you look at it. Until he warped out.

Yes he did agree to. He just was not aware that he did (apparently). It is his fault for not bothering to understand what the word "chance" means.

[Greatguardian]

Yes he did agree to. He just was not aware that he did (apparently). It is his fault for not bothering to understand what the word "chance" means.

What I've gleaned from reading the OP's posts here is that he most definitely was aware what he was agreeing to. He simply had second thoughts when he realized that his gamble may not pay off in his favor, and got greedy.

Instead of FFXI, pretend this was a carnival game.

Host: "If you give me $5, I'll let you throw this ring 3 times. If it lands on a bottleneck, you get a stuffed animal."
Linh: "Okay. "
Linh throws twice and misses
Linh: "So, before I throw this last one, I get my money back if I miss right?"
Host: "What? Of course not, you paid for chances to get a prize. That has nothing to do with whether or not you got one."
Linh: "Confidence Man!!"

[blowfin]

What I've gleaned from reading the OP's posts here is that he most definitely was aware what he was agreeing to. He simply had second thoughts when he realized that his gamble may not pay off in his favor, and got greedy.

You've assumed that for some reason or another, whether it's to back your own argument or what I don't know. But there isn't any proof.

Plus he pretty clearly said on the last page that the final deal was not what he thought he agreed to. Even Rog had the sense to see that.

[Greatguardian]

Like I said, that's simply the notion I've been given by the OP's posts. Without screenshots, there's no proof either way so it's really a moot point. As for claiming he didn't know what the deal was, I'd say feigning ignorance at best. Maybe I expect too much from people, but if the options are the OP being either greedy or dumb, I don't see any reason to support him.

[HFX7686]

You've assumed that for some reason or another, whether it's to back your own argument or what I don't know. But there isn't any proof.

Plus he pretty clearly said on the last page that the final deal was not what he thought he agreed to. Even Rog had the sense to see that.

No, he repeatedly pointed out that he was getting a chance to lot on a tongue. He knew the wording and he surely knows what the word chance means. He has been trying to get sympathy because he agreed to a bad deal.

[blowfin]

Maybe I expect too much from people

Yep, that's probably it in a nutshell.

[Zyeriis]

Like I said, that's simply the notion I've been given by the OP's posts. Without screenshots, there's no proof either way so it's really a moot point. As for claiming he didn't know what the deal was, I'd say feigning ignorance at best. Maybe I expect too much from people, but if the options are the OP being either greedy or dumb, I don't see any reason to support him.

I think I love this line, since you expect too much of the OP and the OP expected way too much out of the deal. It's a tad ironic isn't it?

[Linh]

...If you were as oblivious as you lead on, you never would have asked them about your shank...

I asked them about my shank, because when it was time to /random for the second person to go, I asked if I could just simply go last and let Pewpeww's friend go 2nd, because if it didn't drop the Tongue still, I would want to keep my Shank (unless my orb dropped a Tongue) This was when he mentioned that this wasn't the deal we made and he doesn't play that way. When I was about to ask if this means I can lot their Shank on their 3rd run (assuming I won the /random and went 2nd) if the Tongue still had not dropped then, he DCed.

I alt tabbed out to surf the net while waiting for him to come back. Minutes later I see they're already in without me and he hasn't said anything. I said "wb", and he said "I wasn't away."

So I thought to myself, "aren't you just supposed to say "ty", even if that wasn't the case? Ya know, like conversations at a retail store. Cashier says how are you? You reply fine ty, even if you really aren't fine."

So the 2nd run ended, and now it was time for my orb. Since he hasn't said anything besides the "I wasn't away." during the 2nd run, this was when I asked the question about the Shank again. and where he "clarified" it.

And hey wb Zy. Thought the story ended and you were walkin away.