Common Courtesy

[rog]

Was this pew character trying to rob someone of their shank? Sure.

Uh, no he was not.

[blowfin]

Uh, no he was not.

Haha. I'm pretty positive his eyes would have lit right up when the OP agreed to the deal.

Free shank! Hell yeah! Of course I agree. Christmas has come early, and all I have to do is give the guy the chance to lot a drop that's useless to me.

Maybe it should be re-phrased though. While he might not have intended to rip off the OP, he would have been more than happy to relieve him of his shank with little or nothing to show for it. How you can rationalise doing that and effectively wasting someone's orb if tongue doesn't drop, I'll never know.

[rog]

Haha. I'm pretty positive his eyes would have lit right up when the OP agreed to the deal.

Free shank! Hell yeah! Of course I agree. Christmas has come early, and all I have to do is give the guy the chance to lot a drop that's useless to me.

Maybe it should be re-phrased though. While he might not have intended to rip off the OP, he would have been more than happy to relieve him of his shank with little or nothing to show for it. How you can rationalise doing that and effectively wasting someone's orb if tongue doesn't drop, I'll never know.

Just because he did not have to give anything up (that he cared about) does not the OP did not get anything. It was a great deal for futchy, and a mediocre deal for the OP (but not really terrible).

Regardless, the OP agreed to give it up, and then refused when it was time to pay for the chances he already got.

[blowfin]

Regardless, the OP agreed to give it up, and then refused when it was time to pay for the chances he already got.

Did he agree to give it up though? I thought the crux of the issue at the moment was the deal wasn't properly understood by both parties (and if you don't think it is you might need to review the last few pages). How on earth are you backing out of a deal if you weren't aware you were in that deal in the first place?

I'd like to hear something else other than the OP being called a liar and a cheat. If you can't muster that then don't bother.

P.S. It was a terrible deal for the OP whichever way you look at it. Until he warped out.

[rog]

Did he agree to give it up though? I thought the crux of the issue at the moment was the deal wasn't properly understood by both parties (and if you don't think it is you might need to review the last few pages). How on earth are you backing out of a deal if you weren't aware you were in that deal in the first place?

I'd like to hear something else other than the OP being called a liar and a cheat. If you can't muster that then don't bother.

P.S. It was a terrible deal for the OP whichever way you look at it. Until he warped out.

Yes he did agree to. He just was not aware that he did (apparently). It is his fault for not bothering to understand what the word "chance" means.

[Greatguardian]

Yes he did agree to. He just was not aware that he did (apparently). It is his fault for not bothering to understand what the word "chance" means.

What I've gleaned from reading the OP's posts here is that he most definitely was aware what he was agreeing to. He simply had second thoughts when he realized that his gamble may not pay off in his favor, and got greedy.

Instead of FFXI, pretend this was a carnival game.

Host: "If you give me $5, I'll let you throw this ring 3 times. If it lands on a bottleneck, you get a stuffed animal."
Linh: "Okay. "
Linh throws twice and misses
Linh: "So, before I throw this last one, I get my money back if I miss right?"
Host: "What? Of course not, you paid for chances to get a prize. That has nothing to do with whether or not you got one."
Linh: "Confidence Man!!"

[blowfin]

What I've gleaned from reading the OP's posts here is that he most definitely was aware what he was agreeing to. He simply had second thoughts when he realized that his gamble may not pay off in his favor, and got greedy.

You've assumed that for some reason or another, whether it's to back your own argument or what I don't know. But there isn't any proof.

Plus he pretty clearly said on the last page that the final deal was not what he thought he agreed to. Even Rog had the sense to see that.

[HFX7686]

You've assumed that for some reason or another, whether it's to back your own argument or what I don't know. But there isn't any proof.

Plus he pretty clearly said on the last page that the final deal was not what he thought he agreed to. Even Rog had the sense to see that.

No, he repeatedly pointed out that he was getting a chance to lot on a tongue. He knew the wording and he surely knows what the word chance means. He has been trying to get sympathy because he agreed to a bad deal.

[rog]

Plus he pretty clearly said on the last page that the final deal was not what he thought he agreed to. Even Rog had the sense to see that.

I followed that with "apparently". Apparently meaning supposedly. As in, he said he did not understand the deal. I have no idea if he actually did or not.

[Greatguardian]

Like I said, that's simply the notion I've been given by the OP's posts. Without screenshots, there's no proof either way so it's really a moot point. As for claiming he didn't know what the deal was, I'd say feigning ignorance at best. Maybe I expect too much from people, but if the options are the OP being either greedy or dumb, I don't see any reason to support him.