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  1. 05-17-2011 02:21 AM

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    Player Greatguardian's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Almost everyone hates it, as almost everyone said in almost every other thread about this.
    Qualifier necessary: Almost everyone who posts on the Official Forums and feels strongly enough about the Weakness system to post about it. You're still leaving out two important factions:

    A) Players who do not post on these forums. There are tons, mainly because there is not a rule against stupid.

    B) Players who post on the official forums, like the Weakness system, but do not want to deal with the absolute mess that "whining" threads become. I'm part of this group.

    Really, the weakness trigger system is pretty awesome. To hell with going 1/100 on an NM drop (in old FFXI, I've gone 0/100 on multiple drops). Non-Abyssea weakness triggers can be proc'd by pretty much every job in the game, too. The mobs/NMs cycle multiple weaknesses, potentially even based on what is available to the group at any given time (still being tested), and there isn't any job that's "Left out in the cold" as far as triggers go in Neo Dynamis.

    I will never understand all this complaining. It's like the people doing the whining have only heard that Weaknesses exist in Dynamis, tried it once or twice and didn't get any, and then assume that it's just exactly like Abyssea and their Favorite Job X is going to be useless forever. BS. If you don't want to trigger weakness, you don't have to. Drop rates will stay at their base level, which have always been absolutely horrible in FFXI. The only difference is now the people who are willing to try out proc spells/JA/WS smartly while killing things will increase their drop rates.
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    Player Runespider's Avatar
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    In old endgame in FFXI it took years to get your gear..killing over and over and over again, now they make it easier and you complain? It took me 2 years camping HNM to get the then best endgame gear, enjoy just having to bring a specific job to proc a !! and get your stuff in a fraction of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    ...enjoy just having to bring a specific job to proc a !! and get your stuff in a fraction of the time.
    So level up a specific job that is "useful" and farm some decent gear for the "useful" job, in order to farm gear for another job that is considered "useless" but is the job I actually want to play.

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    What will I do with that "useless" job that is all decked out in nice gear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akujima View Post
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    What will I do with that "useless" job that is all decked out in nice gear?
    Solo with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rog View Post
    Solo with it.

    "Decked Out" RNG Solo'ing: "Alright let's do this..." /shoot... "Aww but dang, the 'sweet-spot' for ranged attacks is from further away ok, I gatta back up... Aww but sheesh, the mob keeps following me. Dang, dang, ok... Hmm. I'll just melee with mah Axe's... But wtf? Velocity Shot?... Aww man..."

    ..."Would be nice if I had someone to keep the mob on them, so I could play my job right."


    *hint, hint* PLD is a Tank?...Wha? *hint, hint*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akujima View Post
    "Decked Out" RNG Solo'ing: "Alright let's do this..." /shoot... "Aww but dang, the 'sweet-spot' for ranged attacks is from further away ok, I gatta back up... Aww but sheesh, the mob keeps following me. Dang, dang, ok... Hmm. I'll just melee with mah Axe's... But wtf? Velocity Shot?... Aww man..."

    ..."Would be nice if I had someone to keep the mob on them, so I could play my job right."


    *hint, hint* PLD is a Tank?...Wha? *hint, hint*
    One time, as an accomplished rdm soloist, i wanted to solo an nm. I thought to myself "is rdm really the best job to solo this on?" And i quickly came to the decision that lolno, it is not. So instead i used my 72 rng, and ended up killing it in half the time it would have taken on rdm.









    Goddamnit olla pots.


    Also, gotta ask, wtf does having to deal wiht the sweet spot have to do with rng's ability to solo? Either you shoot from point blank range, or from further past the sweet spot. In either case you do less damage. But last i checked, damage output has little, to nothing to do with one's ability to solo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    In old endgame in FFXI it took years to get your gear..killing over and over and over again, now they make it easier and you complain? It took me 2 years camping HNM to get the then best endgame gear, enjoy just having to bring a specific job to proc a !! and get your stuff in a fraction of the time.
    SE made ffxi easy and people complaining over triggering are two different thing.

    SE made A zones so easy that's comparing to old FFXI which you have long a$$ wait pop time for NM and thousands of competitor; by doing that, SE get more n00b to join; SE is happy.

    People complaining that, for example, you spent hours for all KIs of an NM, pop'ed it with a few jobs that's already overpower, as soon as you find out the trigger ws/spell you realize you just don't have that in your group. There your pop goes to trash.
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    It makes complete sense,
    level another job that can proc everything to be able to gear up the job you want to play but will never be able to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeroth View Post
    It makes complete sense,
    level another job that can proc everything to be able to gear up the job you want to play but will never be able to.
    Random New Player: "Alright... Hmm, I guess I'll level up PLD to max Lv, it's a fun job!"... Random New Player Hits Max Level! Congratz!

    New Player: "Alright, time to do some endgame content with my max Lv PLD!"

    Random "Abyssea Veteran": "Dude, PLD sucks. Didn't you know?"

    New Player: "Uhhh, No. I'm new, how would I know?"

    Abyssea Veteran: "Go level a useful job."

    New Player: "Well, what are some 'useful' jobs then?..."

    Abyssea Veteran: "Oh sry man, can't talk now. Busy. Gatta gear up for Apedemak farm session. Pop some Brewskies and 6-pack of Redbull to keep me goin all night. Catch'ya l8r bruh. P34CE 0UT~"

    New Player: "Wait!... Wha?..."


    1 Week Later...


    New Player: "Damn I'm not getting invites as PLD... I guess that guy was right... /sigh... Ok I'll level up a DD job... Hmm... Time to LvUp RNG!!! Alright this is ganna be awesome!"... New Player Hits Max Level! Congratz...?

    New Player: "Time for Endgame Content! Abyssea here I co..."

    Abyssea Veteran: "Dude, RNG sucks. Didn't you know?"

    New Player: "WTF?... This game is horrible..." /ragequit


    ~The End~
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