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    Player Edyth's Avatar
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    Question for the developers: What do you have against Titan?

    Mountain Buster became "more powerful than intended" in the last version update. However, this power upgrade was not unbalanced. It put Titan on the list of top physical damage dealer avatars, alongside Garuda, Ifrit, and Ramuh.

    Summoner hasn't seen more powerful blood pacts than Predator Claws/Flaming Crush/Chaotic Strike/Merit blood pacts at all since the level cap increase started. I'm sure most jobs have gotten abilities stronger than what they had before, but the three new blood pact rage abilities still don't live up to to the level 70 and 75 rage pacts of the six sleeping gods.

    So, Summoner was accidentally empowered. Titan became a consistent and strong physical DD avatar. And since I don't have Geocrush fully merited, it was a delight to make use of Titan. Thank you for pointing out that he was stronger so I was able to briefly enjoy it. Unless there is something devastatingly broken and secret that was fixed, ~2200 damage from Mountain Buster isn't that much more than 1400~2000 from Chaotic Strike, Flaming Crush, and Predator Claws on the same enemies. After all, it's level 90. Shouldn't we have something new that is more powerful than what we had at 70/75? And I'd love to see the avatar physical DD tiers shaken up, with Titan, Leviathan, and Shiva equaling or surpassing the big three, and Fenrir at least making somewhat of a comeback. I just think it's fun to use other avatars sometimes.

    So why the Titan hate? He's a cutie. Can I use him?

    And before anyone brings up magic pots and skeletons and Titan being so good against them, try out Chaotic Strike and Flaming Crush on them, which are superior blunt damage. Mountain Buster is not up to par.
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    Player Malamasala's Avatar
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    Ifrit? Ifrit? Ifrit? I mean Ifrit? I don't even use Ifrit because he does pitiful damage against every monster that isn't an open mouth goldfish. Every single 3 months when I pull him out to give him another chance, he goes off and does some 400 damage just to go back into the cave he came from.

    Of course, there is a possibility my random target has been anti-ifrit these last 5 years, but it is hard to believe.

    And while we are at it... new spirit spells? Where are they? Summoner went from 75 to 90 and only got some mediocre upgrades to magic damage on Carby, Fenrir and Diabolos. Better be some kind of killer moves lurking every level post 90 to 99.
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    Player Edyth's Avatar
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    Flaming Crush tends to outdamage and be more consistent than both Ramuh and Garuda on easy prey and too weak monsters, from my experience, while sometimes not faring as well against stronger targets. Flaming Crush is just weird that way. Go farm skeletons in Gustav tunnel and reduce them to 10% HP in one crush, or spiders in Kuftal Tunnel and consistently reduce them to 1% HP with a crush or even kill them if you already tapped them a little, or of course, qutrubs, which flaming crush can hit for over 10K (see bog body in abyssea and Moshdahn in Caedarva Mire).

    If you're getting bad results, get some empyrean +1/2 and 400+ summoning skill, then try.
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    Player Anewie's Avatar
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    i also thought this was bizaatr. I mean.. who cared? this wasn't really noticeable or gamebreaking right? weird. /sigh
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    Player Neonii's Avatar
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    I would like to know why my Favorite Character is so unworthy of a little attention. At least fix the obvious problems with summoner such as BP not going off in a crowd but timer re-setting. Summoner has all these bugs and the only attention it gets is nerfs? I don't get it.
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    Player Volkai's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edyth View Post
    Unless there is something devastatingly broken and secret that was fixed, ~2200 damage from Mountain Buster isn't that much more than 1400~2000 from Chaotic Strike, Flaming Crush, and Predator Claws on the same enemies.
    It's 200~800 more damage. That's not inconsiderable.
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    Player RAIST's Avatar
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    Meh...how about how many jobs can equal and exceed an avatar's BP damage in one shot. I can peg 2k+ with a Great Axe WS, and I'm not even capped on skill and still in "gimped" gears. There was a thread up the other day complaining about how a BLU's brewed burst damage wasn't showing up properly if it was exceding 65535 damage.

    Get a Grip SE....
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    Player Miera's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malamasala View Post
    Ifrit? Ifrit? Ifrit? I mean Ifrit? I don't even use Ifrit because he does pitiful damage against every monster that isn't an open mouth goldfish. Every single 3 months when I pull him out to give him another chance, he goes off and does some 400 damage just to go back into the cave he came from.

    Of course, there is a possibility my random target has been anti-ifrit these last 5 years, but it is hard to believe.

    And while we are at it... new spirit spells? Where are they? Summoner went from 75 to 90 and only got some mediocre upgrades to magic damage on Carby, Fenrir and Diabolos. Better be some kind of killer moves lurking every level post 90 to 99.

    On a scale of Useful Avatars goes like this for me.

    Garuda > Leviathan > Ramuh > Fenrir > Titan > Ifrit > Diabolos > Carbuncle.

    I have never seen the damage they shouldn't be doing as SE puts it, maybe its because i hardly use those Avatars but Tail Whip? I mean, why? ><
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miera View Post
    On a scale of Useful Avatars goes like this for me.

    Garuda > Leviathan > Ramuh > Fenrir > Titan > Ifrit > Diabolos > Carbuncle.

    I have never seen the damage they shouldn't be doing as SE puts it, maybe its because i hardly use those Avatars but Tail Whip? I mean, why? ><
    Where Shiva in the list with Atma_of_the_Beyond and HS Oo
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    Player Miera's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilax View Post
    Where Shiva in the list with Atma_of_the_Beyond and HS Oo
    I completely forgot to add Shiva lol.
    Garuda > Leviathan > Ramuh > Shiva > Fenrir > Titan > Ifrit > Diabolos > Carbuncle.
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