Dual weild

[Arcon]

Mostly hat's true, and overall DNC would probably out-damage an equally geared THF. However, THF doesn't need SA/TA to deal good damage, I even dare to say in some situations they may not be worth using (other than to push the TH value).

With best TP gear, DNC gets ~20% faster attack speed than THF and reaches 100% TP about ~15% faster (assuming equal delay daggers, THF usually get a bit faster daggers, but DNC still wins in overall attacks/time).

And considering how self-sustaining DNC is, and durable, compared to THF, I really hope SE looks into it a bit more and adjusts it somehow, either upgrade THF or downgrade DNC. The only thing THF has going for it in the overall DD-tanking department is its native evasion, which does show a lot compared to DNC (30 difference, even if DNC has full Closed Position merits, up to 45 difference otherwise), which makes us more viable DDs when survival is a problem. Where DNC has to keeps casting shadows all the time or keep curing itself with its TP, THF doesn't even get hit. Also, THF has a few better evasion pieces than DNC, more than DNC has over THF (I'm looking at you, Charis Tights +2), although that's not too much of a difference, since only a few pieces can be worn over DNC to maintain high DD capabilities.

This allows some interesting solo strategies on certain mobs, especially in Abyssea. With some temporary meds THF can take down unexpectedly many NMs solo, only AoE happy mobs are a problem. Yet it still doesn't beat a DNC for overall DD-tanking. We still have our uses, but if there's an equally skilled DNC around, they will usually get the job done easier. Thankfully we have TH.

[Karbuncle]

Mostly hat's true, and overall DNC would probably out-damage an equally geared THF. However, THF doesn't need SA/TA to deal good damage, I even dare to say in some situations they may not be worth using (other than to push the TH value).

With best TP gear, DNC gets ~20% faster attack speed than THF and reaches 100% TP about ~15% faster (assuming equal delay daggers, THF usually get a bit faster daggers, but DNC still wins in overall attacks/time).

And considering how self-sustaining DNC is, and durable, compared to THF, I really hope SE looks into it a bit more and adjusts it somehow, either upgrade THF or downgrade DNC. The only thing THF has going for it in the overall DD-tanking department is its native evasion, which does show a lot compared to DNC (30 difference, even if DNC has full Closed Position merits, up to 45 difference otherwise), which makes us more viable DDs when survival is a problem. Where DNC has to keeps casting shadows all the time or keep curing itself with its TP, THF doesn't even get hit. Also, THF has a few better evasion pieces than DNC, more than DNC has over THF (I'm looking at you, Charis Tights +2), although that's not too much of a difference, since only a few pieces can be worn over DNC to maintain high DD capabilities.

This allows some interesting solo strategies on certain mobs, especially in Abyssea. With some temporary meds THF can take down unexpectedly many NMs solo, only AoE happy mobs are a problem. Yet it still doesn't beat a DNC for overall DD-tanking. We still have our uses, but if there's an equally skilled DNC around, they will usually get the job done easier. Thankfully we have TH.

THF can solo an amazing number of mobs. Just the other day i had a dream i Solo'd AV to about 25%, Then i kited it cause i got hit with Aeroga II (lol?) and only had 108 HP, and for some reason my Utsusemi: Ni timer was @ 24minutes:00seconds.

I love how absolutely insane dreams are.


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnyway. On topic.

More so as an Elaboration, I heard an idea i liked, give THF a "Martial Arts" of Daggers. Would be a good start. And don't give it to DNC. Fk DNC.

I think something that needs to be done for THF too is access to more Job Abilities that actually work on the THF(While he tanks)! most of our new Job Abilities only effect non-tanks, or other party members (Accomp, Collab, Conspir). I always felt THF should have gotten Impetus personally... But I can't fret on that.

Why not give THF something in the lines of Restraint? Except, For each hit instead of increasing your WS Damage, Each hit would increase the Damage of SA or TA? A good Formula would be for each hit landed, Increases the DEX or AGI mod by an additional 0.5%, to a Maximum of 50%, so instead of adding 100% of your DEX to dmg, it would add 150%, same with TA.

Could also give THF Stances. I would love to see THF stances. One could really help their DD/Tank aspect, one could really help their Support/Hate-control Aspect. For instance, On stance could increase DD stats, and Lower SA recast to 30 seconds. While the other could increase...something I dunno, Ranged Accuracy/Attack? and lower Recast timers for Coll/Accomplice, and TA.

I'm just spitballing :\, I love THF and its really good as it is, Doesn't mean i wouldn't like to see new things moving forward