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    Player Wenceslao's Avatar
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    Well on the Welldigger i staggered two times with Penta Thrust but on same run i wasn't able to stagger other mobs, i've tried with angon, soul jump, and spirit jump, havent tried the older jumps yet, maybe it could change on day of the week. Also, I haven't noticed what you say about the mobs near NM, it's interesting as it seems SE may be aware of these practice and maybe they are trying to erradicate them, not allowing mobs near NM drop currency or maybe they have a different method. btw ill be running in 3 hrs my fellows haven't decided if we going windy or jeuno, i'd rather windy as is the one im interested on testing, lol, anyway in a few hours i'll update the results.

    P.S. aparently we are the only ones testing these ><
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wenceslao View Post
    Well on the Welldigger i staggered two times with Penta Thrust but on same run i wasn't able to stagger other mobs, i've tried with angon, soul jump, and spirit jump, havent tried the older jumps yet, maybe it could change on day of the week. Also, I haven't noticed what you say about the mobs near NM, it's interesting as it seems SE may be aware of these practice and maybe they are trying to erradicate them, not allowing mobs near NM drop currency or maybe they have a different method. btw ill be running in 3 hrs my fellows haven't decided if we going windy or jeuno, i'd rather windy as is the one im interested on testing, lol, anyway in a few hours i'll update the results.

    P.S. aparently we are the only ones testing these ><
    Maybe its a slightly different pattern for different zones, i am spamming windy to find all info possible before moving onto another zone

    Its okay if no one else is trying, I like figuring this kind of thing out, leaves more fun for me!
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    SE needs to be more original with content, because spreading the same content and copying it everywhere isn't going to keep people playing for very long. STOP WITH WEAKNESS TARGETING! It is NOT that good of a concept!
    If you don't like what I say, that's fine, you don't have to. But don't think that I care if you agree with me or not. Soooo... if you don't like what I say, don't reply, and move on with your life

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    Anyone doing any zone, as well as listing the position of each TE, can you please also include which KI it gives, for example

    Xarc
    crimson granules of time @ i-10.
    azure granules of time @ g-10
    Amber granules of time @ h-8
    alabaster granules of time @ f-8
    obsidian granules of time @ 1-6

    *Also you arnt the only people testing, a LOT of testing has been done, the results are just posted elsewhere

    For example, we have been able to determine so far

    Certain mob jobs are staggered by ws (Pld Sam Drk Drg War)
    Certain mob jobs are staggered by ja's (Thf Nin Rng Mnk Bst)
    Certain mob jobs are staggered by spells (Brd Smn Blm Rdm Whm)

    Number of TE's got seems to affect your ability to stagger
    Number of TE's got seems to affect the color stagger you will get

    Staggers /seem/ to just be a % chance to proc from any ws/spell/ja, with no pattern (eg sleep a mob and spam voke on it, first 10 may do nothing and the 11th proc).

    Staggers should always be doable by people in your party (which fits with it being a % chance to proc).

    What we dont know 100% yet is how TE's are affecting it, what the difference is between the color staggers in terms of drops, is it definatly just % chance on any ja/ws/spell and what does each specific KI from the TE's do.
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    Player Wenceslao's Avatar
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    OK i found something interesting on Dynamis Bastok yesterday, but I see someone else already posted it, lol, sometimes it takes more than a try to get a stagger, took to sambas ina a Vanguard Defender to stagger it, and apparently it was the only one who could stagger in that run:

    MOB: Vanguard Defender
    Proc: Drain Samba (this was the only ability that staggered)
    Used: Bio
    BioII
    Fire IV
    Stone IV
    Thunder IV
    Sleep II
    Sleepga
    Sleep
    Aspir II
    Aspir
    Drain
    Flash
    Dia
    Dia III
    Paralyze
    Slow
    Blind
    Provoke
    Steal
    Day Entered: Iceday
    Day Claimed: Iceday

    This time i went as BLM to check if magic has a better proc rate, but as far as we checked, sometimes you gotta used the same ability/spell more than once to get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daiiawn View Post
    Anyone doing any zone, as well as listing the position of each TE, can you please also include which KI it gives, for example

    Xarc
    crimson granules of time @ i-10.
    azure granules of time @ g-10
    Amber granules of time @ h-8
    alabaster granules of time @ f-8
    obsidian granules of time @ 1-6

    *Also you arnt the only people testing, a LOT of testing has been done, the results are just posted elsewhere

    For example, we have been able to determine so far

    Certain mob jobs are staggered by ws (Pld Sam Drk Drg War)
    Certain mob jobs are staggered by ja's (Thf Nin Rng Mnk Bst)
    Certain mob jobs are staggered by spells (Brd Smn Blm Rdm Whm)

    Number of TE's got seems to affect your ability to stagger
    Number of TE's got seems to affect the color stagger you will get

    Staggers /seem/ to just be a % chance to proc from any ws/spell/ja, with no pattern (eg sleep a mob and spam voke on it, first 10 may do nothing and the 11th proc).

    Staggers should always be doable by people in your party (which fits with it being a % chance to proc).

    What we dont know 100% yet is how TE's are affecting it, what the difference is between the color staggers in terms of drops, is it definatly just % chance on any ja/ws/spell and what does each specific KI from the TE's do.
    We already have most of the information you posted down correctly, so most of what you have put is nothing new the only thing new is the zone. the key items mainly all say they added sands to the glass and they go away after exit.

    I know people are posting their info elsewhere, but i don't have the time to post on other sites, nor will I. I refuse to post on BG because of how people act with each other over there I will make that very clear. I post my info here because at least here the admins will do something if people begin to harass you.

    We already know that some mobs can be staggered easily, We have collected this information and already have some mobs are staggered by WS others by JA and other by spells. What I want to do is find out

    What WS staggered - not all WS work
    What JA staggered - See if its only short recast JAs that work such as provoke and DNC JAs (which all have staggered)
    What Spell staggered - Seems to be a restricted list since we go with a BLM and WHM and stagger too often.

    I don't post the KI but i DO post where the time extensions are. I do however think that SE tried to keep this quite simple since its an older event and aside the new NMs that DO drop new gear no one will do it.

    I also think that the mobs that drop the NM spawn items either cant be staggered or have a lower stagger rate, they are higher in level and it would also prevent an abyssea from happening (people farming NM items but not currency)

    Edit: also it seems that the MORE JA WS and SPELLS you have the HIGHER THE PROC RATE IS! Also mobs have been usually staggered on first use if not second or third, its very rare they don't get procced on 1st or 2nd. This is coming from someone that has actually been entering every day to figure this out.
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    SE needs to be more original with content, because spreading the same content and copying it everywhere isn't going to keep people playing for very long. STOP WITH WEAKNESS TARGETING! It is NOT that good of a concept!
    If you don't like what I say, that's fine, you don't have to. But don't think that I care if you agree with me or not. Soooo... if you don't like what I say, don't reply, and move on with your life

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