Server-wide /shouts

[Dhragon]

I think it would be good to group San d'Oria / Bastok / Windurst with Jeuno as well. People will not feel the need to stay in Jeuno if they can hear the Shout done in Jeuno in the three nations city.

What would be possible as well would be to link only the port zones from the city, where you can find abyssea npc. (except for windurst)

You know, they're adding the NPC to Port Windurst today...

•New Abyssea support NPCs will be added to the following areas:
Ru'Lude Gardens/Chocobo Circuit/Port Windurst *Please note that Bastion status cannot be checked via the new NPCs.

[Bulrogg]

Though we need to do some more testing, and we are not sure whether it would be possible yet, we are looking into the possibility of making/displaying shouts throughout multiple areas......However, this would ultimately quadruple the server load, so we will definitely need to pay close attention to this.

<Thanks for the offer but I'll have to pass.>

We already have server specific sub-forums that can be used for /shout purposes, why do we need server/multi-area shouts too?

[Won-Ton]

How about a kind of radio you could acquire, and tune to different cities? Transmitters could be placed in central locations and if a shout was heard by the transmitter, you could hear it as well. Then different cities could be used for different kinds of shouts; Jeuno for Abyssea & w/e, AU for Assault & missions, Bastok for bazaar & item shouts, Windurst for live Ballista games, Norg for conspiracy-theory-themed interview shows, etc.

[Mirage]

Yeah I'm not really interested in hearing more /shouts. People only have incredibly stupid things to say typically on my server when shouting.

I imagine there would be separate chat filters for additional shout types. If not, you could always seek refuge in your MH :>

[Glamdring]

I suggested back when all that RMT /tell crap was going on allowing us to make our own filters to block messages. This was never implemented, but it would have been helpful to block RMT spam. It is also useful to block offensive or such content, but even better, it can be st to block any shouts that DON'T contain certain words. So if all you want is Abyssea invites you block all shouts that don't contain Abyssea or Aby as an example.

Certainly, not everyone would use it, but the ones who really don't want to "listen" to all the useless, juvenile garbage being shouted in Port Jeuno would almost certainly use it extensively. And since you can't reach a GM with any speed to report offensive content, and there's enough of it that screenshots could fill a 1 TB HD in less than a week, filters are the only way to go... Unless SE wants to actually put GMs in the affected areas so the garbage shouts are headed off in a hurry.

[Miiyo]

I'd like to see this and hope this would only be done for the Jeuno/Ru Lude Area. I don't see it as possible, however, unless people find a new home for their transportation needs. Port Jeuno + Horst = failure of multi-area shout.

[Godofgods]

Good plan if possible. Grouping all the jeuno areas together wouldnt matter much. Its not a long run to shout in each zone. What you do want to do tho, is group the area in each town where the abyssea npcs are with port jeuno. That will truly help releive the port jeuno conjestion. That way you can be in any nation and have teleport access and shout acess. With that theirs no need to be in PJ itself. So grouping them areas together would be best.

As i said, theirs no need to group every zone in the game together. But with abyssea being the current thing in ffxi, the 4 zones that have aby tele npcs should be grouped together for shouts.

Tele Npcs were added to help releave the massive conjestion in port jeuno. Also with the AH merged, its one less thing you need to go to jeuno for. However, at least on my server, the conjecstion is at an all time high dispite those additions. The reason is, to hear shouts for seals or nms. I may be able to tele to aby from sandy, but if i stay their, ill never be able to find a seal/nm party.

If one zone in each city (the zone aby tele guys are in) were /shout merged, then their truly wouldnt be a reason to have 600+ people hanging around in port jeuno. Youd be able to hang out in any city and still have full benefits and full acess. That would give the players what they need, and releive PJ conjestion all at the same time.

So i think that would be the best idea, assuming they are capable of implamenting it.

[Mirage]

I'd like to see this and hope this would only be done for the Jeuno/Ru Lude Area. I don't see it as possible, however, unless people find a new home for their transportation needs. Port Jeuno + Horst = failure of multi-area shout.

A horst clone will be added to one of the other jeuno zones, so that's not a problem.

[Rasstog]

I may have a solution for you to consider... rather than subjecting 'every' chat log with what normally 90% inane shout chatter... only now your wanting to add it from the entire 'world'.... how about installing “virtual jumbotrons” in each city area(s) to display server-wide shouts.

That way people that don't have anything else to do can run their little character over and park it in front of the 'big screen' and watch to their hearts delight... and the rest of us would be spared seeing the 'crap' in our chat logs.

This approach should reduce the 'excessive packet' issue of sending the message to those that 'subscribe'... because you would be sending the 'messages' to a single city area 'tron'.

[Kari]

Though we need to do some more testing, and we are not sure whether it would be possible yet, we are looking into the possibility of making/displaying shouts throughout multiple areas.

To be a bit more specific, we will be looking into grouping certain areas server side so that a shout from one of the areas in that group will be heard from each of the other areas.

For example:
If Ru’Lude Gardens/Upper Jeuno/Lower Jeuno/Port Jeuno were to be grouped together, making a shout in Ru’Lude would be heard in the other areas (Upper Jeuno/Lower Jeuno/Port Jeuno). However, this would ultimately quadruple the server load, so we will definitely need to pay close attention to this.

There'd be almost no point in doing this if all you're combining is region.
The problem is, people are keeping their Home Point, and therefore their idle spot and etc, in Port Jeuno.
Why? Because, at least on most servers, Abyssea turned Port Jeuno into "the place" to shout for groups and such.
The reason people even considered a world-wide shout channel, is to be in other places such as Bastok, Windurst, etc and still be able to receive shouts, in the case they wanted to participate in one.
Simply, if you can't find a way to let us see shouts from multiple zones, you're going to have a lot of trouble making Port Jeuno less congested.

Does such a thing really make a huge server strain? How is it any different at all in comparison to what we all do every day with Linkshells?
Either way, I just hope any testing you attempt involves being able to see shouts from Port Jeuno while in the other Nations. This is the main concern of many at the time, with the new implemention of Abyssea NPCs in the places many of us used to set our Home Point at. Simply combining regions would hardly change anything.