PS2 Limitations...

[Momohko]

I hear alot of complaints about PS2 limitations and such... I think it would be great if SE did a poll that could be access thru POL to find out of the ps2 players who own ps3. Then SE could possibly make FFXI FOR the PS3 therefore removing the limitations and allowing the game to progress further. I believe that many people who are on PS2 own a PS3 or would be willing if they are able to get a PS3 if this were to happen ^^ thoughts? opinions? anyone ^^

[rog]

Not gonna happen. Sony requires all ps2 remakes to have an HD upgrade to be released on the ps3.

[Wenceslao]

The purpose of doing this is to achieve a HD FFXI, and eliminate all the PS2 limitations, if all PS2 ppls are migrated to PC, PS3 or Xbox, the game content could be upgrades as graphics, and with it Sony could allow a ps3 remake, the prob is, SE is focused now on FFXIV, and FFXI is an old game

[rog]

Yeah, if they didn't make ff14, then there'd be a chance of that happening, but as it stands, SE does not seem to care enough about ffxi to invest the resources that would be required.

[Momohko]

Well with the way FFXIV is going... they should give a look at FFXI and start caring a little lol also they have 2 separate teams on the games so why not lol. I think it is doable and good idea I mean it looks with FFXIV they were trying to recreate ffxi... and to me it fail miserably(yes I have been playing since beta in hopes for it to get better but no luck) I think honestly they should have just made FFXI for ps3 and dropped ps2 and made FFXIV NOTHING like ffxi nothing at all no similar character no similar anything @.@ the game probably would have been better if they weren't trying to make it familiar to ffxi players but that is a whollee nother argument imo @.@;;

[CrystalWeapon]

This has been a rant of mines for a long time. :P The ps2 is the biggest crutch xi has and continues to hold the game back. I find it incredibly frustrating that we will never see another big expansion and not just reskins of old zones / bad guys in xi because of a system that is 11 years old. Does not make any sense to me. I mean hell we only get to explore what 15% of Aht Urhgan's landmass?

I don't think it would be too hard to port over the xbox version to the ps3 :P the coding shouldn't be that horribly off. Honestly I think all the people complaining about quitting if they ever did discontinue the ps2 version are full of it. People like to whine and threaten but when push comes to shove if they did port it over to the ps3 they would continue playing.

[Wenceslao]

Yep you're right but SE tried to upgrade FFXI with FFXIV, maybe they failing atm, but i think they are more willing to mend FFXIV errors, than to drop all ps2 players, i still use a ps2 console, as well as a PC one, but i find more comfort on playing on ps2, graphics are awful, but i got used to ps2 controller, lol, i would'nt be dissapointeed if SE decides to drop ps2 if they are going to get many better issues.

[Sureal]

Yep you're right but SE tried to upgrade FFXI with FFXIV, maybe they failing atm, but i think they are more willing to mend FFXIV errors, than to drop all ps2 players, i still use a ps2 console, as well as a PC one, but i find more comfort on playing on ps2, graphics are awful, but i got used to ps2 controller, lol, i would'nt be dissapointeed if SE decides to drop ps2 if they are going to get many better issues.

i use ps2 style controller on pc

[oliveira]

Adding to what Bungiefan has stated, the only and sole *real* limiting problem with the PS2 currently are the ammount of RAM it has for workspace (32 megabytes) which is the only real "limitation" atm.

What does that mean ? It means that given an certain amount of existing gear combination variations there's a limit on how many textures they can load at a given time, meaning they can't do much even if it means reusing existing gear wireframes to do re-texturing. It's really the worst problem with FFXI and the PS2 at the moment. The hard drive partition could be expanded up to the maximum free space the drive has.

The ceiling limit is 137 gigabytes on their (SONY's) HDD driver. But to expand the FFXI partition they would need to negotiate with SCEI due to the partition size being part of the DNAS protection thing. Any changes to the HDD partition sizes would need SCEI/SCEA approval. But it's indeed possible.

[rog]

I find it incredibly frustrating that we will never see another big expansion and not just reskins of old zones / bad guys in xi because of a system that is 11 years old. Does not make any sense to me. I mean hell we only get to explore what 15% of Aht Urhgan's landmass?

This is such a common, misconception. It's not true. The ps2 definitely is holding the game back, but it is NOT preventing us from getting brand new zones. The only limitation on zones is the 255 max, which counts all zones, including reskins. Oh, and that's not really a limit, since there is surely 1 free byte of ram that could be used to up that limit to 65535. The only thing preventing us from getting a full expansion is SE.