Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Zeitzone]

Oooh, so just because it won in the germans section means it should be put on everyone.

No, and it wasnt me who opened this thread, but it shows that ppl can be different opinion too, and that the site your represent isnt everywhere as strong as here. Becouse it looks like you already scared away from this Thread all ppl not your opinion by endlessly flaming on them till theyre gone.
There is a huge difference in this Forumbetween German and English way of discussion, while English discussion looks alwasy like flaming till the oponet says "wtf my time is to precieus for this"
The posts in the German section are really more like normal discussion, less pushing on those with different opinion.

Anyways I have been in german forums with the same bad Flaming preasure too.
But here is it more peacefull.

[Kazen]

That's a new one, I haven't flamed a single person in this thread. I have provided logical thought trains and I've been very open to any form of debate.

[Zeitzone]

I apologize that was a little overboard however I personally don't have a problem with the way things are currently, I think level 30 is fine.

That's a new one, I haven't flamed a single person in this thread. I have provided logical thought trains and I've been very open to any form of debate.

Please remove that first spelling up there, i think it could be a reason that they bann you, and i dont want that.
Well for me you have shown no logial thoughts, you only say that you want it that way, where is there a logical thought?
You gave me not a single reason i could accept to say: Ok, maybe you are right, maybe we can leave it like it is.
As long i get no reason makes me think that way it isnt logical.

[Mrbeansman]

Please remove that first spelling up there, i think it could be a reason that they bann you, and i dont want that.
Well for me you have shown no logial thoughts, you only say that you want it that way, where is there a logical thought?
You gave me not a single reason i could accept to say: Ok, maybe you are right, maybe we can leave it like it is.
As long i get no reason makes me think that way it isnt logical.

It doesn't matter if you think our arguments are logical. You still don't understand that if you put in a tiny bit more work you can have your old school parties without taking away our leaching.

[Zeitzone]

It doesn't matter if you think our arguments are logical. You still don't understand that if you put in a tiny bit more work you can have your old school parties without taking away our leaching.

Its not like i whouldnt have them, i have a whole ls doing Partys on all levels.
But its still not the same it is used to be, then better splitt servers in one with Abyssea access on 75 and on on 30 or even levle 1 if you want.
As long as you stay there and never get access to our Server/World becouse of the unfair advancement you have on your server.

[Mrbeansman]

Its not like i whouldnt have them, i have a whole ls doing Partys on all levels.
But its still not the same it is used to be, then better splitt servers in one with Abyssea access on 75 and on on 30 or even levle 1 if you want.
As long as you stay there and never get access to our Server/World becouse of the unfair advancement you have on your server.

How is it unfair? Leaching wasn't some well kept secret, it was used rampantly only weeks after being discovered. If SE thought it was unfair and an exploit they would of fixed it long ago.

[Nacht]

Personally, I feel that if they had originally introduced Abyssea as level 70 or w/e, then that's one thing. However, I strongly disagree with raising the minimum level after it's been around for this long.

[Flunklesnarkin]

That's a new one, I haven't flamed a single person in this thread. I have provided logical thought trains and I've been very open to any form of debate.

We don't take kindly to your "logic" round here >:U

[Nacht]

We don't take kindly to your "logic" round here >:U

We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here.

[hiko]

if you want lvl70+ aby==>http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ll=1#post37146