Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Xilk]

Consider this: Everyone insisting a higher minimum cap for abyssea because of level 90 players who don't know there job are telling everyone else how to play the game. Moreso, you are telling the developers to change things to affect how other people play the game. You are trying to make other people play how you want.

I purchased ffxi. I pay my subscription. That deal is between me and SE. There are certain community expectation and points of conduct that should be respected and adhered to. However, these social rules only extend to social situations.

IE> you already have recourse for this kind of play or bad behavior. Stop trying to boss everyone else around and tell them how they can or cannot play a gaime. If you find someone is so appallingly horrible to play with... don't play with them, don't party with them. and Stop trying to tell me how I should play the game. If you don't like it, don't play with me. I'll return the same favor.

I've never told a player "you're doing it wrong".


grrr... thought I hit reply to thread...

[Xilk]

Sadly Fiarila there is no way to distinguish the stupid from smart until you have already wasted your time on them which is never fun.

which is the same whether they leech in abyssea or not.

[Dubberrucky]

I agree believe it or not Xilk. The ratio has just shifted significantly since leeching became so common.

[Fiarlia]

Sadly Fiarila there is no way to distinguish the stupid from smart until you have already wasted your time on them which is never fun.

/check <playername> will usually give you a general idea. >_>

Full teal gear and INT wands at 90? Probably a durrhurr.

Scorpion Harness WAR at 90? Your guess is probably accurate.

Full AF1 or AF2 at 90? Probably! Full NQ AF3? Yep yep!

Full Morrigan's on BLM? /nod

/check'ing isn't always foolproof, I'll admit that. But come on. Between seeing the gear choices some people have made, and standing in Port Jeuno and reading some of the /shouts you see... I'm just gonna have to say that you're flat out wrong that it's not possible to determine if someone is stupid before wasting time.

[Dubberrucky]

/check <playername> will usually give you a general idea. >_>

Full teal gear and INT wands at 90? Probably a durrhurr.

Scorpion Harness WAR at 90? Your guess is probably accurate.

Full AF1 or AF2 at 90? Probably! Full NQ AF3? Yep yep!

Full Morrigan's on BLM? /nod

/check'ing isn't always foolproof, I'll admit that. But come on. Between seeing the gear choices some people have made, and standing in Port Jeuno and reading some of the /shouts you see... I'm just gonna have to say that you're flat out wrong that it's not possible to determine if someone is stupid before wasting time.

Actually if you did that to me you would be for BLM for example I swap 4 sets of gear what you would see may be any one of them causing any of your durrhurr moments. Secondly half the time people reply they are on one of several jobs they have to offer so no still not good enough.

[Fiarlia]

It's really not that hard. Especially to look at the chat log and see what spell you were casting and looking at the gear you're wearing for that spell. I'm not sure why this concept is so difficult. And usually, if someone is well geared, or smartly gear, or at the very least ATTEMPTING to "do it right" on one job, they usually will be on their other jobs. It's like you're trying to make up excuses as to why you wouldn't be able to figure out who is stupid in a vain attempt to lend credibility to the idea that restricting access to Abyssea would help in any way at all (protip: it won't).

I suppose I'll just wrap this up by saying if you're unable to discern the relative intelligence of someone fairly quickly... well, you may not be one of the people that are actively sought out for a smaller group of friends to do stuff with.

[Bahamut_Norm]

I didn't read the 9 pages of this tread to make this reply, and I know that makes me a tool.

But for all that is love and Altana, please do the action in the subject of this thread.

You didn't let people spam -na spells to gain levels by doing nothing in Campaign Battle, why start now?

[Draylo]

No thanks @ OP

[rog]

I didn't read the 9 pages of this tread to make this reply, and I know that makes me a tool.

But for all that is love and Altana, please do the action in the subject of this thread.

You didn't let people spam -na spells to gain levels by doing nothing in Campaign Battle, why start now?

They aren't starting now, we've been leeching exp for years with chigoe, and astral burns anyway. Don't pretend free exp didn't exist prior to abyssea.

[Fiarlia]

Don't forget the actual exp scrolls, which you could do on your 75 job and then use on your level 20 job!