Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Cream_Soda]

You're underskilled leveling the reg way, too. This has been around since level sync. Sync birds 37-55. Sync birds 55-75. Colibri merit.

Now, w/ the double exp, you'll be leveling even faster as compared to skill ups because the skill up rate sure wasn't doubled, lol.

People are going to be underskilled regardless.

Abyssea or not, you're going to have to skill your stuff up, so when it comes to that. If the person sucks, kick them. It's as simple as that.

[Greatguardian]

If the person sucks, kick them. It's as simple as that.

This. Why is this so hard to grasp? If someone doesn't have spells, skills, or the ability to even land their spells then remove them from the group.

Honestly, the "real issue" can be completely avoided by just doing things with people you know and trust anyways. I promise there are competent, nice people somewhere on whatever server you're on. Find them, do stuff with them, don't worry about any random unskilled leech trying to ruin your fun.

[kewitt]

I used to be all over this. But I've given in.

I wouldn't mind the min level being raise to 50 but currently.

Level 20-30 about 2 days duoing with rings.
Level 30-40 about 3 days with duoing with rings.
Level 40-50 about 4 days with duoing with rings.
level 50-60 forever!
level 60-70 Kill me now.
level 70-90 a day or 2 at most.

People knowning they can just abyssea from 30-cap doesn't help make parties who wants to party when they can go from 30 - 70+ in a day abyssea.

I can't take the time to seek for 1-3 hours just to party for 2 hours.

I wouldn't mind it being raise to 50, but 70 isn't worth it.

[ZeDingo]

This. Why is this so hard to grasp? If someone doesn't have spells, skills, or the ability to even land their spells then remove them from the group.

Honestly, the "real issue" can be completely avoided by just doing things with people you know and trust anyways. I promise there are competent, nice people somewhere on whatever server you're on. Find them, do stuff with them, don't worry about any random unskilled leech trying to ruin your fun.

I laugh pretty hard at all of the BLM90s we have on Vale now, with maybe half having all of their proc spells. Yeah.... they bought t5, skipped right past t3-4.

[Fiarlia]

I'd rather spend my online time actively getting things done to improve my character and my group of friends. Having multiple jobs makes this easier. Taking weeks or months (depending on someones available playtime and current in game schedules of doing stuff) to get new jobs leveled is kinda counterproductive. You either spend less time doing group stuff just to level new jobs to get back into the group stuff you're neglecting, or you say screw it and just keep at it with the same tired jobs, being unable to expand your capabilities (due to lack of available jobs). Hell, even if everyone has the same jobs, it's nice to rotate so nobody gets stuck as perma-WHM, or perma-MNK, or perma whatever.

I quite enjoy having more jobs at max level. And I'm going to get more at maxed level. And they're going to be leeched.

People who who think that leveling the old fashioned way should be the only option are seriously.... I can't even think of a suitable way to put it on these forums wouldn't getting in some sort of trouble, so I'll just stop there.

And the vast majority of the real world population is stupid. Since we're all dealing with people that hail from this real world, we're all bound to run into many stupid players. Forcing someone to level the old fashioned way will not make them smart or good at the job if they already weren't ever going to be due to the aforementioned stupidity. It will not keep them from getting to the max level either. All it will do is make them take longer. Honestly, how many people have never run across a multitude of idiots while playing the game? They exist, and they always will. If you don't like it, try making friends with good players. Join a small group, or start one. Start a linkshell, a small one would probably be best given the nature of the game these days. Stop partying with these people that make you think this is a good idea! Once you can get yourself away from these players that make you QQ about everyone getting to 90 easily... guess what? You'll stop QQing!

[Cream_Soda]

You'll stop QQing!

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good one

[Topdogg]

I laugh pretty hard at all of the BLM90s we have on Vale now, with maybe half having all of their proc spells. Yeah.... they bought t5, skipped right past t3-4.

I saw a 90BLM in party the other day use a Warp Cudgel.

[ZeDingo]

I saw a 90BLM in party the other day use a Warp Cudgel.

That's great. Took a moment to set in, too. My first thought was "wtf no ele staves?"

[rog]

I saw a 90BLM in party the other day use a Warp Cudgel.

Could be because he forgot he was on blm. I did that quite often, as well as used tele rings while /whm, etc.

[Fiarlia]

I never understood why people would party with window-lickers like that. Now or before.